[Namron] Guild of Camillus de Lellis

Isobel de Kirkbryde kirkbryde at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 26 15:52:09 PDT 2005

Thank you for your input.  However, this doesn't
address people who are called Master of Children or
Mistress of A&S which are NOT given by crown.

As far as the Guild, the idea is to create the
environment in which your lovely lady plays in.  For
that to happen, there are people who need to be
educated.  And, even though I also have the wonderful
opportunity to play in Namron, there are times when I
don't know how best to support my fellow SCAdians who
have afflictions.  That is what this guild is about
not putting a scarlet letter around someone's neck who
doesn't want one.

I find this frustrating.  Once again, I have tried to
do something I thought would be beneficial and help
our Barony and the kingdom to be shot down.  Sigh!

I'll remove that from my signature line and I won't
bring it up again.  Sorry for the attempt to help. 
Apparently I was just being a helpful Henry. 


--- vortmax at cox.net wrote:

> (key on)
> I would also refer to Corpora, Appendix A, pp.
> 23-24:
> "2. The Society’s standard titles are defined in (4)
> below. The Society 
> recognizes that equivalent titles from other
> cultures may be more appropriate 
> for individual members. Such alternate titles may be
> used by those entitled to 
> the rank or award associated with them, provided the
> College of Arms has 
> ruled that the title in question is an equivalent
> for the rank or award in 
> question. All standard and alternate titles are
> specific to the Society, and 
> convey no rank or precedence outside it. They may be
> used in a Society 
> context only by those who have achieved the
> appropriate rank or award 
> within the Society. 
> ..
> 4. The titles listed here are considered standard,
> and may be used by those 
> who have earned or been granted the appropriate rank
> or award within the 
> Society. The College of Arms publishes a more
> extensive list of titles and 
> alternative forms, which may also be used freely by
> qualified persons. In 
> addition, the College of Arms has full approval
> authority over new alternative 
> titles, which must be added to their list before
> being released for use in the 
> Society. 
> ...
> Master/Mistress:   Members of the Orders of the
> Laurel, the Pelican, 
> and Mastery of Arms. "
> To summarize:  it may not be appropriate to refer to
> one's self as a "master/
> mistress" until a decree from the Crown has been
> issued allowing one to be 
> named as such.
> (key off)
> Speaking as someone married to one who is
> "afflicted," this guild might be 
> not be welcomed by everyone with a disability.  As
> has been pointed out, 
> Namron has welcomed with open arms those with
> disabilities and treated 
> them like equals.  In particular, my wife enjoys the
> SCA because it allows her 
> to become "that lady who plays the harp" or "that
> lady who creates and wears 
> wonderful Elizabethan garb," not "that lady with the
> terrible affliction whom 
> we must give special consideration and treatment."
> Just something to think about.
> ---
> Lord Thomas of Weathershear
> (m.k.a. Brad Stanley)
> Seneschal Namron
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