Personality and Behavior (was RE: [Northkeep] Sir Balvins Defence)

Marc Carlson marccarlson20 at
Mon May 27 16:01:14 PDT 2002

>From: cchipman at (Carl Chipman)
>Diarmaid, I know you're just being sarcastic, but there is a vein of
>truth to your tongue-in-cheek statement.

Oh, don't get me wrong - my message was thoroughly serious.  I had been
previously confused by people talking about "chivalry" and "The Dream" and
crap like that.  Obviously it's not something people feel willing to try to
-actually- make an effort at.

That's fine with me - I'm all up for being an asshole.  In fact, it takes a
lot of work for me NOT to be one most of the time.  If you don't like that -
suck it up and get over it.  But don't delude yourself that I'm acting or

No one ever suggested 'aiding and abetting self destructive behavior'.
What was suggest was recognizing that a lot of people may have trouble
fitting in with groups, thinking about how you come across, and making an
attempt to help those feel welcome might be a good idea.  The response has
pretty much been "to hell with those whiners".  That's your choice.  It will
certainly keep down on the populace numbers.

Personally, I have found that simply trying to work with people was good
enough, but clearly that's not what want to hear -- they want to hear that
they are in the right for selfishly ignoring others.  My problems with "the
Group" have traditionally not had anything to do with not feeling like I fit
in.  My personal problems have tended to be based on hypocrisy and people
claiming one thing and doing another.
That's obviously the problem here, as well.  That's my mistake, and MY fault
for having even minimal expectations of other people.

BTW, I didn't forward the original message.  Ainar did.

"Suck it up and get over it" -- Matthew 5-7 (NKV)

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