Personality and Behavior (was RE: [Northkeep] Sir Balvins Defence)

Zenobia Mira Vallis VivatTheDream at
Tue May 28 09:10:53 PDT 2002

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Thank you for saying what needed to be said (as usual).  Janece and I were both cheering when we read your post.  I see you've had no responses (online, anyway), but I'm sure many people are feeling some annoying pinpricks.  The truth doesn't just piss people off - it really does hurt!

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Marc Carlson
  To: northkeep at
  Sent: Monday, 27 May, 2002 6:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Personality and Behavior (was RE: [Northkeep] Sir Balvins Defence)

  >From: cchipman at (Carl Chipman)
  >Diarmaid, I know you're just being sarcastic, but there is a vein of
  >truth to your tongue-in-cheek statement.

  Oh, don't get me wrong - my message was thoroughly serious.  I had been
  previously confused by people talking about "chivalry" and "The Dream" and
  crap like that.  Obviously it's not something people feel willing to try to
  -actually- make an effort at.

  That's fine with me - I'm all up for being an asshole.  In fact, it takes a
  lot of work for me NOT to be one most of the time.  If you don't like that -
  suck it up and get over it.  But don't delude yourself that I'm acting or

  No one ever suggested 'aiding and abetting self destructive behavior'.
  What was suggest was recognizing that a lot of people may have trouble
  fitting in with groups, thinking about how you come across, and making an
  attempt to help those feel welcome might be a good idea.  The response has
  pretty much been "to hell with those whiners".  That's your choice.  It will
  certainly keep down on the populace numbers.

  Personally, I have found that simply trying to work with people was good
  enough, but clearly that's not what want to hear -- they want to hear that
  they are in the right for selfishly ignoring others.  My problems with "the
  Group" have traditionally not had anything to do with not feeling like I fit
  in.  My personal problems have tended to be based on hypocrisy and people
  claiming one thing and doing another.
  That's obviously the problem here, as well.  That's my mistake, and MY fault
  for having even minimal expectations of other people.

  BTW, I didn't forward the original message.  Ainar did.

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