[Northkeep] "Northkeep" in German

Marc Carlson marccarlson20 at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 4 08:55:39 PDT 2005

>Yeah, that would improve our image, wouldn't it?

Yeah well...

I believe there were other suggestions also :)

>>Yeah, I knew the castle was from about 1300, so that's
>>what I was going for... how would Gisela von Wulfsburg
>>have connotations? I'm confused!!! Besides, it
>>wouldn't be spelled like that at all... or could it? I
>>thought we had to use period spelling?

Admittedly, I'm not a Herald, but I think the question isn't period spelling 
so much as how it was spelled in the documentation.  I know that sounds 
confusing -- but you'll notice that "Northkeep" isn't spelled in anything 
like a medieval way.  Conversely, I doubt you'd ever find it in a period 
document no matter how it was spelled :)

Was Vlufsborch the actual documented name of the castle in the medieval 
"brunswieksch koeddern" (Braunschweiger being a specific dialect blending a 
lot of hoch und platt Deutsch, or is it just taking the two name elements 
and translating them into medieval German?  (Note I'm not arguing with 
Zahava on this, she's the one you have to ultimately make happy, not me :) )

I know what you are trying to do, and that's fun and great, but it may 
result into some stunt heraldry and that's not always possible.

BTW, I believe the arms only go back to the 40s (informal use) and granted 
in 1952  ooh interesting... 

As for "von" having connotations it can mean "of" or it can mean a noble 
claim to..  I've seen the heralds go back and forth on this one for decades.

OTOH, if you want to go for it, go for it and take the name Giselde von 
Bartesleben.  It is unlikely that there was ever a REAL Giselde von 
Bartesleben, but she *could* have existed.
And would give you something really cool to start researching...

> > In any case, think of all the Braunschweiger jokes
> > :)
>Uh oh... what do you mean???
>Gisela (rather confused... nothing new)

Wulfberg is in Braunschweig (Brunswick in English) - Braunschweiger is a 
kind of spicy liverwurst (sausage) - and as a sausage just lends itself to 
all sorts of ... well, never mind...


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