[Northkeep] sheesh WAS: "Put out that bloody cigare..." *
glnn_jhn at yahoo.com
Sat May 9 14:57:18 PDT 2009
I, Sir Angus MacKnokard have traded Slaves with the Same Slave trader Mentioned By Damon. he is a crafty and Sly trader. Be very cautions when doing business with him. You will get everything as described, but maybe not as intended...
Angus MacKnochard Bagadur
KSCA, CSS LXVIII, LPoK
snerta er vald
From: Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner <burgborrendohl at valornet.com>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 2:18:15 PM
Subject: [Northkeep] sheesh WAS: "Put out that bloody cigare..." *
Probably shouldn't get involved in this discussion, but my two farthings, shillings, whatever:
Belinda and Hugh Niewoehner have never owned slaves...will never own slaves and none of their ancestors back until the 1700's (as far as we can determine) owned slaves. Of course, we condemn the institution (even though it still occurs in some parts of the world today).
However, Ismet's family owned many slaves. Damon's family (and he, himself later) owned thralls. It was the Middle Ages (you know that thing we're recreating) and it was PC then. Damon happens to know a gentleman in Three Rivers whose persona is a slave trader. He's also black and proudly so. Many of you have been entertained when Damon and others have sung the song he wrote...Zorab's Song.
Yes, the SCA is a modern organization, but the 'slaves, thralls, whatever' that are auctioned are no more really enslaved than the King, Baron, Knight, etc. has any real authority other than what we give them in the game. If you don't like the game, you can always go home.
As to California
> (Bear in mind that we are governed by a corporation seated in Marin County,
> California. Look that up on Google Earth. Notice where it is. And ask
> yourself how charitably people there might view a bunch of Midwesterners
> playing at slave-games).
the most fun I had in my teenage years was when I was auctioned as a slave at the Roman banquet in Ridgecrest, California. The event was put on every year by the :Latin club and the other language departments. If you were a first year language student you were a slave (couldn't give anyone orders and had to obey nobles and gods), second year students were freeman (only gods could give you orders, but you couldn't order anyone else around), third year were nobility (could order slaves around) and then the fourth year were gods (ordered anyone around). There were limits of course set by the faculty. Worse thing I ever saw was a slave made to push a grape across the floor with his nose. But then there were the fun things like being ordered to pour a glass of water on a noble and then being sent by that noble back to do the same to the one who'd sent me originally. Yeah, I know, it probably doesn't happen even in Ridgecrest anymore because
someone probably abused something at some time.
Life's too short. I'm tired of walking on eggshells. I think the press has enough epidemics and political nonsense to keep them busy without harassing us.
By the way, is Mercedes' raffle still on? I have a few items.
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