TENT - Re: Wagon wheel, guy ropes, etc.

[Stephen Wyley]

Hi Joe,

> >Can you please clarify what you mean by "lopsided wagon wheel"? If 
> 
> Sure.. I'm refering to a single center pole design.  The center pole has a hub just above
 head height, and spokes that radiate out from the hub to the shoulder of the tent.
> the hole arangement looks like a single wagon wheel and axle rotated 90 degrees and
 planted in the ground, or like the spines of an umberella.
 
> > you are referring to the wooden framed internal support structure, 
> > there is no historical accuracy to it.
> 
> I saw a picture on the web that claimed to be a  reconstruction in a Swiss museum of a 15th
 century design.  It used this structure, but you can't see where the rim would be, assumeing it's there.

As I mentioned in the previous post the use of such internal support 
structure as little historical basis and if it was used was not used 
widely.
 
> > Other than yurts (and other similar tents) most tents were simply 
> > held up by the action of the main pole(s), the material and the guy 
> > ropes and pegs. The use of internal support structures are 
> > un-necessary.
> 
> OK.. wouldn't that require an enormous amount of ground space to support a reasonably
 large tent?

No, not really, bell tents can be put quite close together with their 
guy ropes overlapping.

>  What about the many period images of pavilions with no guy lines?

I believe it is just an artistic convention, can you imagine how 
fiddley it is to paint all the guy ropes on all of the tents. When 
realism started in art you find more detail crops up and that 
includes tent guy ropes.

BTW, I can list more manuscripts with show guy ropes than not.

I was thinking that a rigid intenal support would allow iether internal guy lines or no guy lines
 with the seems between the panels serving that function?  

See previous statement on rigid internal support. 

> I desperately want to avoid side poles of any kind. 

Please do. Side poles were mainly used for wall tents, 16th century 
+. 
> And that kind of brings up another question.  Did period tent makers piece thier tents
 together from narrow strips of fabric as we are typically forced to, or did the just weave
 enormous pieces of fabric?

Narrow strips were the go.

  
Bye for now,

Stephen Francis Wyley
stephenw-hrt at nmit.vic.edu.au
Technical Officer
(Plant Tissue Culture, Chemistry and Soil Science)
Conservation and Applied Science Department, NMIT

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