[Re: [Re: [Re: PE - Re: Angles large oval wedge?]]]

[Wendy Freeman/Otte]

I should learn to read ALL my emails before responding.  Yes, that was the
tent.

"Barbara E. Sorenson" <bes at NebrWesleyan.edu> wrote:
> Hi Willow,
> 
> What color was the tent?  It sounds like one that I did some while back.
> It was usually pitched in the enchanted ground at Lilies.
> 
> The door on the side was at the request of the gentle that I did it for
> (actually, I did a couple).  It was patterned after the geteld, but the
> door was in the middle, instead of at the end.
> 
> Barbary
> 
> On 17 Oct 2000, Wendy Freeman/Otte wrote:
> 
> > Ahh - I just made a discovery - there is an ongoing argument over the
shape of
> > this tent.  Here is the issue: look at the two versions of the
Anglo-Saxon
> > Geteld.
> > <http://www.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/taxonomy.html>
> > 
> > Actually, the one I saw had the ridgepole on the inside, but looked more
like
> > the second Geteld tent shown, with the bell ends.
> > 
> > Still, the issue of a medieval reference is an open question - where did
> > *these* gentles get their sources?
> > 
> > --Wyllow
> > 
> > Wendy Freeman/Otte <wyllow at netscape.net> wrote:
> > > Sven, you caught me - I have no reference.  The gentle (I think it was
Toli,
> > I
> > > know it was someone from MagMor, Calontir) who built the large oval tent
had
> > a
> > > reputation as an excellent researcher, and I took him at his word.  My
web
> > > search, triggered by your challenge (and rightly so) has produced no
> > obvious
> > > results.  So, can anyone help me find the reference I am sure exists?
> > > 
> > > Here is what I remember from my conversation with him, 4 years ago - it
is
> > an
> > > Anglo, Saxon, or both tent from ?before 1000AD?.  It uses no ropes,
> > depending
> > > on the cloth of the tent to hold it up - the roof & sides are one cloth.

> > Its
> > > shape is more like a huge pup tent, with bells closing either end, and
a
> > slit
> > > cut into the middle of one side for the door.  It resembles the *roof*
of
> > the
> > > french two-bell, reaching to the ground, although the pitch of the roof
is
> > a
> > > lot steeper.
> > > 
> > > Mira, did you have a reference/picture for the Bell wedge?  The
timeperiod
> > > doesn't match, but the description does.
> > > 
> > > --Wyllow MacMuireadhaigh
> > > 
> > > "Mira (Tanya Guptill)" <tguptill at teleport.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Stephen Wyley wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Wendy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am yet to come across such a tent as you describe.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you quote your reference for this Angles large oval wedge?
> > > > 
> > > > It looks to me like it is the earlier form of a bell wedge, with the
slit
> > > door, ala
> > > > Tudor period.  If I'm correct, you see a lot more of these in period
than
> > > the
> > > > so-called French Bells (more common American Civil War, door is
> > different,
> > > althoug
> > > > there is evidence of the awning/door in Coburg in the mid 1600s).
> > > > 
> > > > Mira
> > > > 
> > > > Mira
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Bye for now,
> > > > >
> > > > > Sven
> > > > > (Stephen Francis Wyley)
> > > > > Fortifications (Dictionary of Military Architecture, etc).
> > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wy/svenskildbiter/index.html
> > > > > Archery, Arms, Armour, Chests, Tents, Trebuchets,
> > > > > Vikings, Woodwork.
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/svenskildbiter/index.html
> > > > > Arrow Fletching, Turbow Longbows & Yoretymes Emporium of History
> > > > > http://svenskildbiter.webjump.com/index2.html
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2 Oct 00 08:56:11 CDT   Wendy Freeman/Otte wrote:
> > > > > >The Angles had a one-person-to-raise tent - it was a large oval
wedge
> > > with a
> > > > > >slit door in the center of the long side.  You peg all of the
sides
> > down
> > > > > >first, then take the two poles into the tent, and raise the roof,
one
> > > pole at
> > > > > >a time.  No ropes - all based on tension.  Very few seams, so good
for
> > a
> > > rainy
> > > > > >climate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >One problem - I think its timeperiod of use was 700-900AD, maybe
> > > earlier.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--Lady Wyllow of the Loch
> > > > >
> > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com
> > > > >
> > >
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> > > > 
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> > > > Go and dare before you die
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> > > > Leave behind to conquer time
> > > > 
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