RF - Re: FW: Gatekeeper procedures and materials

Sun Apr 15 22:19:04 PDT 2001

"Also technichally since you are handling the money
for our group...you are my deputy...and the responsibility
of any of our groups money ultimately is mine...and the seneschal's."
Mistress Lorraine's statement is true to a point... BUT, if something goes wrong with troll or the
Head Troll at this event who is the person that will be called on the carpet first ?  The
Autocrat.  I too am a deputy of this Barony.  And I am responsible for what goes on at this
event.  My Head Troll and I had already talked about how things will be handled.  For the record
it will be run the same way I had it run last year, following the suggested out line found on the
Ansteorrian web pages.  I have a recent hard copy of the outline and have always planned to use
it.  I'm wondering why the "disaster fantasy three" thought I would run it any different.  I guess
if I, as Autocrat, had been asked , "How are you planning to run troll ?", and "Have you talked to
your Head Troll about it ?", I would not feel the chain of command has been broken.  The only
thing that was demanded from me (from two different people) was Charlie's phone number so they
could call him and tell him what to do.  Our Seneschal's only comment was "This needs to happen".
Charlie too was offended by my exclusion and the lack of trust in both of us.  I heard no
complaints last year about the way troll was handled.  Why the mistrust ??  For the answer I
suggest you refer to my last email paying close attention to the parts about "power junkies" and
self-important people.

..."we have had problems in the past with Doug not necessarily having the most current information
reguarding policy and procedure (nor at times wanting to follow what was at that time kingdom
requirements)..."  Lorraine, would you like to back up this slanderous statement with examples,
because honestly you have been known to... I won't say lie...let's say bend the truth severely to
make some one look bad.  I think it has something to do with you wanting people to believe that
the universe would fall apart if you didn't sacrifice so much to hold it together.  As you said at
the Raven's Heart meeting, "I know, I complain about everything" and "I'm never happy.  My life
sucks".  What's the deal ??  If you make others look bad you make yourself look better ??

Trying to be in service to the Barony,
Pax,
Marius

L T wrote:

> Since Doug was kind enough to post his comment about routine inquiries from officers of
> the group into legitimate concerns of their office without talking to any of the officers
> here is the situation as it unfolded...
>
> There have been alot of changes in the kindom reguarding things that are necessary to run
> the gate of the event and since the gate involves both legal and monetary issues the
> seneschal and the treasurer need to be assured that the person running gate knows of
> the current rules and regulations...and is willing to comply with them.  I also keep the
> gate supplies from event to event and make sure things like the cash box, change, and
> other necessary things get to the gate so that we don't have to waste anyone's time
> or the group's money duplicating effort.  These are part of my duties of treasurer.
>
> Since neither Niklas nor I have seen Charley recently and in trying to call the last known
> number for him got the notice that the number we had, had been disconnected...
> and we have had problems in the past with Doug not necessarily having the most
> current information reguarding policy and procedure (nor at times wanting to follow what was at
> that time kingdom requirements)...we wanted assurances that Charley knew the most current
> information...
>
> Niklas sent an inquiry via e-mail to Charley and was given the information about
> what he was using as a source of his procedures (which, by the way is a really good
> source). Niklas forwarded the information to me and I sent Charley the following e-mail
> detailing suggestions that would make make running the gate easier and asking for pertainent
> information.
>
> In service to Raven's Fort
> and Ansteorra
>
> Mistress Lorraine DeerSlayer
>
> ***********************************************************************************************
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:19:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: L T <ldeerslayer at yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book
> Subject: Gate...
> To: Charley at lcc.net
> CC: Cobalt60 at lcc.net, niklas at wt.net
>
>
>
> Paul sent me the information you sent him....
>
> One of the reasons I wanted to contact you is that we have
> oodles of the copies of many of the forms you already printed.
> I guess we will have many more now... no biggie..
> Also technichally since you are handling the money
> for our group...you are my deputy...and the responsibility
> of any of our groups money ultimately is mine...and the seneschal's.
>
> I needed to know what you have and what you needed as far
> as supplies, medical bracelets...etc...also we have a
> big plastic box that we keep at the gate and keep all
> the extra stuff in (to keep it together and out of the weather)
> We usually don't have much of a problem with "lost" forms
> because we usually put forms in 3-ring binders (that we have a
> fair stock of) but bound stuff is definitely acceptable...
>
> I need to know if you need seed money for the gate...
> how long the shifts are, whether you are going to keep the
> money til sunday or if you are going to hand it over
> to me periodically through the event... and if you are going
> to help me count the money sunday...and where...
>
> I can bring the box (with the cash box) to you friday at noon...or another
> designated time.
>
> You need to put the pulls in legal size envelopes, with the amount
> and denominations on the front, seal the envelope,...and have
> the outgoing shift persons sign the sealed edge of the envelope...
>
> As treasurer...here my suggestions...on the forms...
>
> page 23 (probably 20 pages of the Feast Reservation form is overkill
>          but not really a big deal)
>
> page 24 - it is in 3 hour shifts and we usually do 2hr shifts
>           but that is your perogative...
>
> page 25 - we don't usually use the sign in and out form...but using it
>           is a good idea...
>
> page 26 - I would suggest that you split the 50 copies into 2 booklets
>           to ensure ease at times when several people come in at once
>
> page 27 - 20 copies of the Adult waiver is fine....but I would suggest,
>           that like the sign in sheet, you do 2 booklets for ease of use.
>
> page 28 - minor site form (with legal guardian), we have lots already 3 hole
>           punched....but more is okay
>
> page 29 - minor site form (for use with non-guardian adult), since these
>           have to be notarized we usually don't use these...you can hand
>           them out so people have extra...
>
> page 31 - cash disbursement forms...you probably need more than 3...
>           if 3 people want their money back....lots more will...
>
> I will have the checkbook on hand if anyone needs immediate reimbursement...
> NO monies come out of the till for ANY purchases!
>
> If there is anything else you need to know or you need me to know
> you can call me at 936.293.8912 or since I only get periodic access
> to net you can mail niklas or brian.
>
> Lorraine
>
>
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