[Ravensfort] Ravensfort Digest, Vol 33, Issue 3

byzytym byzytym at att.net
Fri Jan 2 14:47:06 PST 2009


I am very glad that you made it home safely.
I don't believe that the business meeting was relocated due to a weather 
report though.  What ever the reason, the ice has melted and has turned into 
water under the bridge.  I look forward to a bright, sunny tomorrow.

V NV


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Pace" <gpace77586 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Ravensfort Digest, Vol 33, Issue 3


> One never knows what may happen when a decision is made.
> Take for instance, the Business meeting. 45 minutes after Giovanna and I 
> left the Keep and arrived home, the drizzling rain that was falling 
> combined with the Artic winds, to caused a traffic death just north of our 
> exit. A young man spun out of control. I will forever be thankful that the 
> meeting was changed. Being alive is a most excellent reason and perhaps a 
> result of  our one time change of our  business meetings location. Thank 
> you Dom and Dave.
> Mike, thanks for your input. A gaming business had been contacted and one 
> another would not post. But that was awhile ago. I have contact posters if 
> you want them to put up. Coffee shops are also good places to post. Our 
> membership has been improving. All of our meetings are in public places 
> and our garb does draw interest. That is why we encourage those attending 
> populace to wear garb. I have encouraged non active members to come and 
> visit old friends and to share their history of our Barony. Anything that 
> you can help implement to attract new members is fine. Just run the ideas 
> by myself and others officers so that we know SCA policies are being 
> followed. Do you want to become the next Hospitaler? My term is up in 
> October... let me know.
>
>
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>   1. Meetings and .. stuff (mike dowdy)
>   2. Re: Great News! (byzytym)
>   3. Re: [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2 (byzytym)
>   4. Re: Meetings and .. stuff (byzytym)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:45:27 -0500
> From: mike dowdy <mdowdy999 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Ravensfort] Meetings and .. stuff
> To: ravensfort <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
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> just my 2 cents.. I would think if you/we want to find new folks, then we 
> would  find a place new folks are at. Now, if was me, I would have that 
> populace at the student center, or.. golden cor.. or.. anywhere new folks 
> might be found  at. To me thats a no brainer.. Now there are those will 
> will disagree... and we can .. disagree..
>
> my thoughts.
>
> populace should be the calling card of who we are, put it on campus.. 
> Populace is not really for just us, its also a .. hey who the hell are 
> they.. lets cheak them out... we walk up in costume.. we get new folks.. 
> matter of fact, unless its a privite practice, or a private .. say officer 
> meeting then.. we need be right there out in the open. We have to have 
> folks see us. If we do not get new membership then we do one of 2 things.. 
> we self perpetuate and do not grow..  and.. then die. We must have new 
> members.
>
> all fighter practice (light and heavy) need to be in a place that mass 
> traffic can see and talk to.
>
> Demos? do we have any "ins"" with the gaming/comic book community? thats 
> how we used to get a lot of great members  we need to get back to the on 
> campus populace.. the ol **the walking the hall** for membership. Thre are 
> 2 comic shops here, I am going to start talking to them.
>
> Did  miss anything? I want new or old chiv fighters get out..
>
> so.. we need new members.. how do we get them, we need lots and lots of 
> fighters.. how do we get them.. and we need to be visable, creative, open, 
> and .. most of all freindly.
>
> If you agree ar disagree thats great.. speak up.
>
> I want to see more fighters..  Baron Brian, thanks for all your help in 
> that area.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:55:35 -0800From: m_meaux05 at yahoo.comTo: 
> ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org; rfofficers at yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
> [Ravensfort] [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2
>
>
>
> I liked moving it to the 8th also.  This gave people time to recover from 
> New Years festivities.As for location..I actually thought moving it 
> towards the Conroe area would be nice this month since our "impromtu" 
> business meeting was held in Huntsville last month.  There was at least 
> one member that voiced negatively about the Business meeting being held in 
> Huntsville.  Ironically, that person is now wanting the Populace meeting 
> to be held in Huntsville when it would be closer if it were moved to the 
> Willis/Conroe area.If we hold it at the "Shop"..we can still do food. 
> It's called "potluck".  There is also a working kitchen to prepare the 
> food and set up a buffet line.The last time we held meetings in 
> Huntsville..it was done at the Golden Calf.  Food sucked and we had small 
> turnout.Since this is the New Year and the vocalized concern for a good 
> "turn-out"..I vote to hold it at the shop.  I believe this would be our 
> strongest turn-out..and if I am wrong
> I'll give a quarter for
>  those that need it.YIS,Marie
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:43:57 -0600
> From: "byzytym" <byzytym at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Great News!
> To: "Eisenhauer, Elke" <STDEJE14 at SHSU.EDU>,    "Raven's Fort Barony of"
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> Way to go Raven's Guild !
>
> V NV
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eisenhauer, Elke" <STDEJE14 at SHSU.EDU>
> To: "Raven's Fort Barony of" <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:26 PM
> Subject: [Ravensfort] Great News!
>
>
>> To all who have ears let them hear!!
>>
>> I come once again to you but this time with news of great joy!! I have
>> received in the mail late last month a package that we have all been
>> waiting for. I am proud to say that Raven's Guild is now one of the 
>> newest
>> RECOGNIZED student organizations at Sam Houston State University!!!!!
>>
>> Congratulations to all in this wonderful barony who have put forth time
>> and effort into this long and hard journey. We have come out on top and
>> can now begin to grow not only in Huntsville but also on the University 
>> as
>> well. Way to go Raven's Fort! We did it!!!!
>>
>> Humbly in service,
>> Lady Elke
>> 2007-2008 President of Raven's Guild and Founding Member
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:46:47 -0600
> From: "byzytym" <byzytym at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2
> To: "Sher M" <runa.herd at earthlink.net>, <m_meaux05 at yahoo.com>,
>    "Raven's Fort Barony of" <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>,    "Raven's
>    Fort Officers" <rfofficers at yahoogroups.com>
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> Right.  It is certainly understandable and desirable to move the meetings 
> when there is a holiday conflict.  The problem I had with moving the 
> LOCATION of the business meeting was there was no good reason for it.
>
> Vlod NotVlad
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Sher M
>  To: byzytym ; m_meaux05 at yahoo.com ; Raven's Fort Barony of ; Raven's Fort 
> Officers
>  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2
>
>
>  This from what I understand is a one shot deal because normally our 
> Populace is the 1st Thursday of the month.  That was New Year's Day.  The 
> Fire Station was already booked for the 2nd Thursday (8th).  This like the 
> business meeting in December (according to what I understand) is just a 
> one shot deal (many people were going out of town and needed the time to 
> pack, etc).
>
>  Runa
>  Sher Montgomery & The Thundering Herd
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>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: byzytym
>    To: m_meaux05 at yahoo.com ; Raven's Fort Barony of ; Raven's Fort 
> Officers
>    Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:18 PM
>    Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2
>
>
>    Actually there was more than one member of the Barony that had a 
> problem with the business meeting moving to Huntsville.
>
>    The reason I didn't want it to move the business meeting and the reason 
> I would like to keep the populace meeting north is consistency.  I have 
> seen full, to over flowing meetings like the ones we are having now 
> dissolve in to practically nothing in no time because the powers that be 
> start messing with a good thing.  In my twenty years in Raven's Fort I 
> have seen business meeting held in Conroe at least three times.  All the 
> locals in the south start attending and both of the meetings grow.  Then 
> we get a new Seneschal that thinks Conroe is too far to drive and so the 
> meetings get moved north again and the people in the south quite going 
> because asking us to drive north twice a month is too much of a burden. 
> It is a little unreasonable when the folks in the north are not willing to 
> drive down once.
>
>    There has been talk lately about doing online meetings so no one will 
> have to drive south.  Well, I won't go into why online meeting suck so 
> badly again, but I will say that if the people in the north do not want to 
> drive south, there are other groups that would love a shot at the Conroe 
> area.  Driving to Huntsville takes me almost an hour.  Driving to 
> GatesEdge would take me twenty minuets or less.  I'm guessing that it 
> would not take long for them to become a barony if they had the rich area 
> that is right in their back yard to developed.  I wonder what would happen 
> locally if such a change took place.
>
>    Let me say that I love Raven's Fort and I am willing to suffer almost 
> anything to protect it.  I think that I have proved that over the last 
> several years.  In return there should be reciprocation.  In recent 
> conversation with our Baron, he assured me that the south is very 
> important to our Barony and he has no intention in let it slip into 
> neglect.  That is excellent.  The best way that I know of maintaining a 
> happy south is to continue with the successful schedule as established and 
> stop the unfriendly talk of doing away with the only effort that shows a 
> presence in the area.
>
>    Let me close by saying that I believe that our Seneschal, Baron and 
> Baroness are doing an exceptional job.  The Barony is healthier than I 
> have seen it in almost a decade.  Let's not rock the boat.
>
>    In service to the Barony,
>    Vlod NotVlad
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: m meaux
>      To: Raven's Fort Barony of ; Raven's Fort Officers
>      Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:55 PM
>      Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2
>
>
>            I liked moving it to the 8th also.  This gave people time to 
> recover from New Years festivities.
>
>            As for location..I actually thought moving it towards the 
> Conroe area would be nice this month since our "impromtu" business meeting 
> was held in Huntsville last month.
>
>            There was at least one member that voiced negatively about the 
> Business meeting being held in Huntsville.  Ironically, that person is now 
> wanting the Populace meeting to be held in Huntsville when it would be 
> closer if it were moved to the Willis/Conroe area.
>
>            If we hold it at the "Shop"..we can still do food.  It's called 
> "potluck".  There is also a working kitchen to prepare the food and set up 
> a buffet line.
>
>            The last time we held meetings in Huntsville..it was done at 
> the Golden Calf.  Food sucked and we had small turnout.
>
>            Since this is the New Year and the vocalized concern for a good 
> "turn-out"..I vote to hold it at the shop.  I believe this would be our 
> strongest turn-out..and if I am wrong I'll give a quarter for those that 
> need it.
>
>            YIS,
>            Marie
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:04:46 -0600
> From: "byzytym" <byzytym at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Meetings and .. stuff
> To: "mike dowdy" <mdowdy999 at hotmail.com>,    "ravensfort"
>    <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
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> Right you are !  Public visibility.
>
> I did not want the first thing said after Elke's Raven's Guild 
> announcement to be "Good, now maybe we can get back to having our meetings 
> at the college like the old days", even though it was the first thing I 
> thought.   But since you brought it up... With any luck we can start 
> having the meetings at the college again like the old days.  I am not sure 
> what needs to happen for that, but it certainly was good for us in the 
> past.
>
> Several years ago the student center closed a short time for remodeling 
> and during that period someone dropped the ball on paperwork so we lost 
> our status as a student organization.  No student organization, no meeting 
> room.  Bad thing.  Hopefully now, with the generosity of the Guild, we can 
> reestablish a visibility on campus.
>
> Long live Raven's Fort.  Long live the Raven's Guild
>
> Peace,
> Vlod NotVlad
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: mike dowdy
>  To: ravensfort
>  Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:45 PM
>  Subject: [Ravensfort] Meetings and .. stuff
>
>
>  just my 2 cents.. I would think if you/we want to find new folks, then we 
> would  find a place new folks are at. Now, if was me, I would have that 
> populace at the student center, or.. golden cor.. or.. anywhere new folks 
> might be found  at. To me thats a no brainer.. Now there are those will 
> will disagree... and we can .. disagree..
>
>  my thoughts.
>
>  populace should be the calling card of who we are, put it on campus.. 
> Populace is not really for just us, its also a .. hey who the hell are 
> they.. lets cheak them out... we walk up in costume.. we get new folks.. 
> matter of fact, unless its a privite practice, or a private .. say officer 
> meeting then.. we need be right there out in the open. We have to have 
> folks see us. If we do not get new membership then we do one of 2 things.. 
> we self perpetuate and do not grow..  and.. then die. We must have new 
> members.
>
>  all fighter practice (light and heavy) need to be in a place that mass 
> traffic can see and talk to.
>
>  Demos? do we have any "ins"" with the gaming/comic book community? thats 
> how we used to get a lot of great members  we need to get back to the on 
> campus populace.. the ol **the walking the hall** for membership. Thre are 
> 2 comic shops here, I am going to start talking to them.
>
>  Did  miss anything? I want new or old chiv fighters get out..
>
>  so.. we need new members.. how do we get them, we need lots and lots of 
> fighters.. how do we get them.. and we need to be visable, creative, open, 
> and .. most of all freindly.
>
>  If you agree ar disagree thats great.. speak up.
>
>  I want to see more fighters..  Baron Brian, thanks for all your help in 
> that area.
>
>
>  Michael
>
>
>
>
>
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>  Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:55:35 -0800
>  From: m_meaux05 at yahoo.com
>  To: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org; rfofficers at yahoogroups.com
>  Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] [rfofficers] POPULACE MEETING UPDATE 2
>
>
>        I liked moving it to the 8th also.  This gave people time to 
> recover from New Years festivities.
>
>        As for location..I actually thought moving it towards the Conroe 
> area would be nice this month since our "impromtu" business meeting was 
> held in Huntsville last month.
>
>        There was at least one member that voiced negatively about the 
> Business meeting being held in Huntsville.  Ironically, that person is now 
> wanting the Populace meeting to be held in Huntsville when it would be 
> closer if it were moved to the Willis/Conroe area.
>
>        If we hold it at the "Shop"..we can still do food.  It's called 
> "potluck".  There is also a working kitchen to prepare the food and set up 
> a buffet line.
>
>        The last time we held meetings in Huntsville..it was done at the 
> Golden Calf.  Food sucked and we had small turnout.
>
>        Since this is the New Year and the vocalized concern for a good 
> "turn-out"..I vote to hold it at the shop.  I believe this would be our 
> strongest turn-out..and if I am wrong I'll give a quarter for those that 
> need it.
>
>        YIS,
>        Marie
>
>
>
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