SC - Re: Pennsic Tales

[Par Leijonhufvud]

Sounds OK by me then.  The jam-maker should have asked the cordial-maker where
he/she got the /fraise de bois/, non?

My bad experience was when I cooked a recipe from a primary source, not a
dictionary but a translated period book, and the judges took points off me for
not enough documentation.  [Hais, straight from Al-Baghdadi.] Huh?  Oh well.
Water under the bridge.

Selene

pat fee wrote:

> The Adrian "cut off" date is now 1603.  Passed in the Imperial Estates
> Meeting in July 1999.
> The point was that the  authentisity of the primary source was not
> questioned untill the entrant started to complain.  Then one of the judges
> offered his laptop and cell phone to "check the source". Weak documentation
> was sighted  as well as the large pieces of strawberrys that were present in
> the "jam", as the reasons for docking points.
>
>   Lady Katherine McGuire
>
> >From: Susan Fox-Davis <selene at earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
> >To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
> >Subject: Re: SC - Haggis and Strawberries
> >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:34:46 -0700
> >
> >  Lady Katherine McGuire wrote:
> >
> > >   There was an incident, at another group's Imperial War last year.  A
> >entry
> > > was made of a strawberry jam, I would have called it a compote.  As part
> >of
> > > the documentation there was a quote from a on line dictionary that
> >stated
> > > that a strawberry was found that was as "big as Queen Elizabeth's head"
> >and
> > > the date was given as 1565.
> >
> >If the cutoff date for the Adrian Empire is 1500, that indeed would not
> >qualify
> >as acceptable documentation.  I commend this page as an in-depth yet
> >accessible
> >source on the history of the Strawberry:
> ><http://www.nal.usda.gov/pgdic/Strawberry/book/bokthree.htm>
> >
> > >    Now in my opinion, this is a error.  I looked up the reference but
> >could
> > > not find it.  Maybe it was my bad computer skills or?  But in the same
> >A/S
> > > tournament there was an entry of strawberry cordual.  In this
> >documentation
> > > it was stated that the average size of strawberries, in the period, were
> > > about the size of the a women's thumb nail. The entrant had used the
> >varity
> > > of wild strawberries available, and had gone out of her way to make the
> > > entry  as "period"  as possible.
> > >   The first entrant was "upset" that her jam did not beat the cordual,
> >and
> > > kept saying that it needed to be rejudged.  This was deigned by the
> >person
> > > running the tournament, on the grounds that the judges were all A/S
> >Knights
> > > equivalent to Laurels in the SCA.
> >
> >Phooey, I've gotten upset with Adrian arts judging to the point where I
> >won't
> >compete at all.  What part of 'primary source' don't these people get?
> >*sigh*
> >Well, I agree that the judging was probably correct in the first place, but
> >better they should have cited weak documentation, if that was the case.
> >Mind
> >you,  I don't enter contests in the SCA much either, I run them instead.
> >
> >Selene Colfox, in either game
> >selene at earthlink.net
> >