SC - Re: Wierd but Cool Kitchen Gadgets

Tue Apr 24 16:48:11 PDT 2001

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No, my lady, you aren't.  It still breaks my heart to remember a time
when I could leave my purse, camera, etc., laying out in the open in my
pavillion at Pennsic and know that it would be absolutely safe...and to
know now that I must not only put such things away, but should actually
lock them up!  It makes me wonder if bigger is really better.

Kiri

LadyPDC at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/24/01 3:07:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
> LrdRas at aol.com
> writes:
>
>
>
>> I have also been known to serve beggars if they show
>> up at the back door. Whether they have paid or not is irrelevant
>> since
>> feeding the poor is a real virtue. Certainly  a better path to
>> follow than
>> refusing them service because of profit motivation or other selfish
>> reasons.
>> Such a gesture is also very period and, IMO, oneof  the best of the
>> Middle
>> Ages worth preserving. As they say, "but by the grace of God, go
>> there I."
>>
>> Ras
>
> Actually I have two takes on this.  Both from the last feast I did.
>
> First of all, we learned after the event by virtue of some counting
> done by
> the servers (a home school class) that 30+ people had sat down to eat
> feast
> without paying a cent.  I personally knew of several people who did
> not
> either attend the event or who skipped feast because of financial
> concerns.
> Yet these other 30 people decided that they had a right to eat without
>
> paying.  What they did was unfair to the others who did pay for feast,
> to the
> people who did not get to eat the feast and were in genuine financial
> need,
> to the autocrat who had to explain that the event lost money because
> of pre
> reserved feast spots not claimed and yet all spots at the table being
> filled
> with 30 unpaid, and ultimately they were unfair to the final
> recipients of
> the "left overs".
>
> You see, we made arrangements to take left overs if any to a local
> shelter
> for abused women and children.  Yes, we did have some and they were
> much
> appreciated at this place.  This is where our "charity" similar to the
>
> feeding of the poor in the middle ages should be.  Not to fill the
> belly for
> free of people who could easily afford to pay for the meal and just
> decided
> that since it was easy to steal then it should be done.
>
> Yes, we have since instituted methods (permanent feast tokens which
> must be
> turned in to sit down to eat) to prevent this in the future.  Am I the
> only
> one who finds it sad that an organization based on honorable conduct
> should
> have to resort to such minute checking for thieves?
>
> Constance

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No, my lady, you aren't.  It still breaks my heart to remember a time
when I could leave my purse, camera, etc., laying out in the open in my
pavillion at Pennsic and know that it would be absolutely safe...and to
know now that I must not only put such things away, but should actually
lock them up!  It makes me wonder if bigger is really better.
Kiri
LadyPDC at aol.com wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>In
a message dated 4/24/01 3:07:41 PM Mountain Daylight Time, LrdRas at aol.com
 writes:
  
  
<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I
have also been known to serve beggars if they show
 up
at the back door. Whether they have paid or not is irrelevant since
 feeding
the poor is a real virtue. Certainly  a better path to follow than
 refusing
them service because of profit motivation or other selfish
 reasons.
 Such
a gesture is also very period and, IMO, oneof  the best of the Middle
 Ages
worth preserving. As they say, "but by the grace of God, go there I."
Ras</blockquote>

<p><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>Actually I
have two takes on this.  Both from the last feast I did.</font></font></font></b>
<p><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>First of all,
we learned after the event by virtue of some counting done by</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>the servers
(a home school class) that 30+ people had sat down to eat feast</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>without paying
a cent.  I personally knew of several people who did not</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>either attend
the event or who skipped feast because of financial concerns.</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>Yet these
other 30 people decided that they had a right to eat without</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>paying. 
What they did was unfair to the others who did pay for feast, to the</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>people who
did not get to eat the feast and were in genuine financial need,</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>to the autocrat
who had to explain that the event lost money because of pre</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>reserved
feast spots not claimed and yet all spots at the table being filled</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>with 30 unpaid,
and ultimately they were unfair to the final recipients of</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>the "left
overs".</font></font></font></b>
<p><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>You see, we
made arrangements to take left overs if any to a local shelter</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>for abused
women and children.  Yes, we did have some and they were much</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>appreciated
at this place.  This is where our "charity" similar to the</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>feeding of
the poor in the middle ages should be.  Not to fill the belly for</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>free of people
who could easily afford to pay for the meal and just decided</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>that since
it was easy to steal then it should be done.</font></font></font></b>
<p><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>Yes, we have
since instituted methods (permanent feast tokens which must be</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>turned in
to sit down to eat) to prevent this in the future.  Am I the only</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>one who finds
it sad that an organization based on honorable conduct should</font></font></font></b>
<br><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>have to resort
to such minute checking for thieves?</font></font></font></b>
<p><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0>Constance</font></font></font></b></blockquote>
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