[Sca-cooks] champagne, as opposed to real pain

[Elaine Koogler]

Sorry...I just repeated what you said here...and it was the Korbel
winery we toured...they make wonderful champagne...though we are also
very fond of the Mirassou champagnes.

Kiri

Huette von Ahrens wrote:

> Actually, there is a treaty that the French made other
> European countries sign that only France can call
> their sparkling wines "champagne".  However, they
> never asked the US or the other non-European wine
> producers to sign such a treaty.  So California wine
> makers can call their sparkling wines "champagne"
> because they use the same "methode champagnoise" as is
> used in France.
>
> As for it not coming from the Champagne region of
> France, well I am sure you have had burgundies from
> other places than Burgundy and sherries from other
> places than Jerez and ports not from Portugal.  In
> many blind taste tests, California champagnes have
> frequently been prefered over French champagnes by
> expert judges.  Korbel and Domaine Chandon are the
> best of the California champagne makers, in my humble
> opinion.  But the best "champagne" that I have ever
> tasted was German, the Pieroth Meisters Cuveé.  Some
> years ago, I went to a New Year's Eve party and
> brought two bottles of the Meisters Cuveé, which I
> shared with the others at the party.  At midnight, the
> hosts brought out a case of Taittengers to toast the
> new year.  Everyone, including the hosts, felt that
> the Pieroth was the superior champagne.
>
> As for "pink champagne", I have been told that it was
> in reality sparkling rosé, and not made from the
> champagne grape.  There are bottlers who have labeled
> their product as "pink champagne" but are misleading
> you as to what their product really is.  If someone
> has hybridized a pink champagne grape, I have never
> heard of it.
>
> Huette
>
> --- Gorgeous Muiredach <muiredach at bmee.net> wrote:
> >
> > >There is no such thing as
> > >"pink champagne".  What you may be thinking of is
> > >either sparkling rosé or cold duck.
> >
> > Huette,
> >
> > I fear that there just might be such a thing as pink
> > *Champagne*.  I can't
> > remember off the top of my head which house makes
> > it, but I distinctly
> > remember having had some.  I shall have to get back
> > to you on this.
> >
> > >Of the California champagnes
> >
> > But...  That's a contradiction in terms...  If it's
> > not made in Champagne,
> > France, it ain't champagne ;-)  Though I'll admit to
> > have been taken to a
> > winery in California that had some really decent
> > stuff.  Can't remember the
> > name of it either!  Suffering from accute CRS right
> > now...  I'll have to
> > ask my friend next time I talk to her.
> >
> >
> > BTW, CRS>
> > Gorgeous Muiredach
> > Rokkehealden Shire
> > Middle Kingdom
> > aka
> > Nicolas Steenhout
> > "You must deal with me as I think of myself" J.
> > Hockenberry
> >
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Elaine Koogler

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