In a message dated 7/13/01 3:33:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, grizly at mindspring.com writes: << Little Debbie Stawberry Shortcake, Swiss Cake Rolls, and the various filled cakey things... >> I've used such products chopped up in the bottom of trifles, so as a Brit I guess they don't drive me too crazy ;-) Elysant