[Sca-cooks] Milk and Nut Allergy Questions...

[Olwen the Odd]

>From: Huette von Ahrens <ahrenshav at yahoo.com>
>Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:08:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>They have started defining "lactose intolerance"
>differently in the past few years.  Those who
>can't handle milk, but can handle processed
>cheeses, ice cream, etc., are now said to have a
>"milk allergy/intolerance".
<<<<snip>>>>
>If you clearly spell out what has
>milk/cheese/butter and offer other dishes free
>from any milk product, then that should be okay.
>
>On the other hand, nut allergies are very, very
>serious and life threatening.  You have to be
>very, very careful not to serve anything that
>even touched a nut to these people.  You have to
>make sure not to use any peanut or nut oils in
>your cooking.  You have to make sure that any
>spoon or pan used to cook the item with nuts,
>isn't used to cook any item with no nuts.  Not
>even for just a second, or you can jeopardize
>that person's health.  Most people that I know of
>with nut allergies might not be allergic to all
>nuts, but they never, ever experiment to find out
>what they are allergic to and what they aren't.
>Their allergy is too life-threatening to do so.
>They just avoid all nuts altogether.  The people
>I know with nut allergies never go to public
>feasts because of the potential for
>cross-contamination.
At our 12th Night here in Atlantia, our Guild was cooking the feast.  As
usual, the "contact so and so with any allergies" was posted.  Just before
the feast was to be served, someone came to Chirhart(head cook) and said
they were allergic to nuts, what should they avoid; they did not "contact
the so and so..." before hand.  Chrihart's answer?  Don't eat the feast!
It can NEVER be so stressed that we REALLY MEAN contact us ahead of time.
For our guild anyway, it is usually a source of pride that we do not cross
contaminate certain dishes.  We have one cook assigned to preparing those
certain dishes and they are fully aware of the use and placement of every
cuttingboard and spoon or knife they use in the preparation of that dish.
Without a warning of some specific allergy that we don't normally deal with,
there is no way to monitor that any food was not cross-contaminated.  So the
best answer really is Don't Eat The Feast.
Olwen, member, Bright Hills Cooks Guild
>Even if you post your list of ingredients, how
>can they know if you have been careful not to use
>the same spoon to stir the nut-full sauce and the
>nut-less sauce?  If you want to cook for people
>with nut allergies, you would have to treat them
>like you would a Kosher Jew.  You would have to
>set up a separate kitchen with separate
>pots/pans/utensils and totally nut-free in order
>to reassure them that your food won't kill them.
>At least with the ones I know of.  I have never
>done this, because I have never had the resources
>or the time to cater to them in this way.  I
>either make my menu entirely nut free or tell
>them that nuts will be present and not to eat at
>the feast.
>
>Huette
>
>--- lilinah at earthlink.net wrote:
> > OK, so, i sent my tentative menu. Because there
> > are milk-allergy and
> > nut-allergy issues, i'd thought i'd query the
> > collective wisdom of
> > the list. The only food allergy i know i have
> > is to some (but not
> > all) artificial vanilla flavors. And i am
> > sensitive to eating raw
> > pineapple - nothing serious, although i do get
> > a mildly upset stomach
> > (but not intestines) if i eat raw pineapple
> > with cottage cheese.
> >
> > However, nut and dairy allergies can be much
> > more serious.
> >
> > My tentative menu contains dishes with cow's
> > milk (although they
> > specify goat or sheep), almond milk, almonds,
> > grated cheese, etc.
> > (see message titled Grains for Feast?)
> >
> > Are most people who are allergic to cow's milk
> > able to eat aged cheese?
> > Are most people who are allergic to cow's milk
> > able to eat Ricotta cheese?
> > My brother has been lactose intolerant all his
> > life. Milk is bad, but
> > ISTR he can handle most cheeses. I don't know
> > how typical this is...
> >
> > Are most people who are allergic to walnuts
> > also allergic to almonds?
> > Or are these very different and separate
> > allergies?
> > How common is an allergy to almonds?
> >
> > I cannot make all dishes to suit all people,
> > but i'd like folks with
> > sensitivities to be able to eat most of the
> > feast... although perhaps
> > not the same set of dishes...
> >
> > Thanks for any guidelines, pointers,
> > information, personal experiences, etc.
> >
> > Anahita
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