[Sca-cooks] Feast Alternatives

[Elaine Koogler]

What happens here is that interested groups put in bids for Kingdom level
events.  The group with the best bid, determined mainly by the Crowns, but
with input from a Kingdom event bid person, gets the event.  Usually the
group fronts all of the money for the event, but if they don't have enough,
the Kingdom will kick in with whatever is needed.  the feast can be as large
or small as desired by the group, based on projected attendance.  People are
beginning to learn that if they don't make reservations for the feast early,
they probably won't get on-board.  And our event fees are structured to
encourage on-board reservations...prices are given both for a reservation
including the feast (on-board) and for offboard (not including the feast).

Profits are divided 50-50 by the hosting group and the Kingdom.  However, if
a loss is incurred, the hosting group eats it.  But it is a very rare thing
that a Kingdom level event will lose money.  Even here in Dun Carraig, where
we normally get very small attendance for local events, we do very well on
Kingdom events.  Even this past Kingdom Twelfth Night, when a snow storm
prevented most of the south from attending, we still made a profit!

Kiri
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siegfried Heydrich" <baronsig at peganet.com>
To: <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Feast Alternatives


>     What that translates out to is that anything over that number comes
out
> of the feastcrat's pocket. If they don't sell as many feast seats as
> anticipated, the feastcrat (or group) takes a bath. If they do sell that
> many, kingdom keeps the proceeds. Ahem . . . Given that if they DO sell
out,
> the group receives no benefit whatsoever and if they DON'T, they lose
their
> shirts, small wonder they're not willing to run the risk . . .
>     Most just show up on site looking to see if feast is still available.
> I've tried for years to convince people to make reservations, but since
> there's no cabin space, there's very little incentive to pre-reg. At Wewa,
> where there was limited cabin space available, people reserved in greater
> numbers. When they reserved cabin space, the made their feast reservations
> as well. I noticed a steep decline in pre-registration across the board
when
> we started using LaNoChe. One of the drawbacks, I suppose, of a site that
> can (and regularly does) handle 5 times our numbers.
>     If they're going to make the group bear the risk, they should be
allowed
> to keep the profits. The way it was when I was still doing kingdom feasts,
> the kingdom kept all the proceeds and the host group got nothing from
feast
> fees. Given that I was generally putting out well over $1,000 of my money
> for each feast, I thought that bit big time. My feasts always sold out,
but
> still, it was my money swingin' in the wind out there . . . I've done 350
in
> that hall, and it was cozy but not crowded.
>     Kingdom seriously needs to update the 'Crats manual - their front
money
> is woefully inadequate, and the number restrictions were put in place back
> when 700 on site was a big event . . . I think it was written in '94 or
so,
> and hasn't been updated since.
>
>     Sieggy
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> >
> >> At the moment, Kingdom (living perpetual fear that it might lose money
on
> >> feast) limits feast to 150.
> >
> >Sieggy, the kingdom does not limit feast to 150, it limits the Kingdom's
> >financial risk to 150.
> > If the feast sells out or if it looks like it will sell out, the head
> >cooks/feastcrats may open feast to more people but they or their group
not
> >Kingdom would have to front the money.
> >
> >I think you should open up the tavern for dinner, the halls we use can
> >realistically hold 250-300 adult Scadians comfortably.  Even if half of
the
> >attendees daytrip that leaves 300 without feast.  You do great food go
for
> it.
>
> >
> >YIS
> >Ld Annan nam Beanntan
> >Shire of Brineside Moor
> >Trimaris
>
>
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