[Sca-cooks] Embroidered table linens again

[johnna holloway]

The original message snipped is below--
Subject:         Embroidered table linens again
   Date:
        Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:47:27 -0500


Last spring Huette von Ahrens on
Mon, 15 Apr 2002 posed the question regarding embroidery on table linens

Today I found two more both by the same artist and since these were very
striking, I thought I would post this find to the list--

The works are The Last Supper by Domenico Ghirlandaio, 1480 (Florence)
and 1486 (San Marco).
They are on the web in a variety of places
but the best is probably the Web Gallery of Art--
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/g/ghirland/domenico/4lastsup/2ogniss.html
Or one can browse the works by searching on Author: ghirlandaio which
turns up 140 pictures found, Items 61-70 show the last suppers.
The 1486 (San Marco) is at:
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/g/ghirland/domenico/4lastsup/3smarco.html
This one features even more ornate bands.
The gallery offers details of both.

Johnnae llyn Lewis   Johnna Holloway

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On Tuesday Nov 12th I posted the following in response of one query
regarding if it could be as in the CA article--

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I rather thought these looked like what is now called Assisi work
myself. I looked the article on the web by the author of the CA article
(http://hometown.aol.com/noramunro/Perugia/index.htm)
and still think that the linens in the two artworks cited look different
than what she presents on the webpage.
Johnnae llyn Lewis  Johnna Holloway
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This was the last of the posts until today-- Johnna


Rosine wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure that was embroidery, done over
> > a woven brocade pattern.  It would have been
> > very difficult to do that design any other way, IMHO.
> > There are others on this list who also weave,
> > embroider, and spin; what are your thoughts?
> Regards,
> Brekke
>
> I've lost the original message with the link (there was a link?) to the
> painting. Could some re-post it? After hanging around with a weaver (handy,
> that, for those of us who embroider), I can probably get a more definitive
> answer... assuming the restrictions of looking at painting and guessing the
> fiber-work.
> > Rosine
> (For what it's worth - weaving is the most-likely answer. I remember the
> research that Mistress Alianora was doing before she published her CA, and
> embroidery was not very common for that purpose. But still, that's one area,
> one time slot. Not seeing the picture, I don't know if it's in the same
> place/time.)