[Sca-cooks] Dinner Tonight

[Daniel Myers]

For some interesting information on the regional terms to describe such
sandwiches, check out this site.

	http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/staticmaps/q_64.html


(There's a lot more on other regional variations in dialect at
http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/maps.php )


On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 01:50 PM, johnna holloway wrote:

> What's funny about these is that my son will eat
> more like devour these but he won't touch the national
> subway chain sandwiches that aren't grilled.
>
> This local place is a going concern and being located just
> down the street from the ice rinks (hockey on two rinks
> 24 hours a day or as near to it as possible) does a big
> business in takeout and eat in. What I know about their
> history is what's up on the website and on their menus.
> Given the history of the labor pool in and around Detroit,
> it's hard to say where or why they are grinders in Michigan.
>
> I am reminded of that Sandwich show that was on last month on PBS
> but I failed to pay the 75 dollars for the book. I figure one
> of these days it will be available for a more reasonable price.
>
> Johnnae llyn Lewis  Johnna Holloway
>
> "Phil Troy/ G. Tacitus Adamantius" wrote:
>>
>> Also sprach johnna holloway:
>>> All of what the Master there said except our
>>> local place runs them through an oven and grills them
>>> so they are all toasted and the cheese is melted.
>>
>> Ah, memories of Cuban Sandwiches (whose name in Spanish I've
>> forgotten, if I ever knew it). Slightly flattened from the sandwich
>> grilling machine often used -- it looks like an industrial iron and
>> does both sides at once. Usually involving roast pork, thinly sliced,
>> with ham, salami, some form of cheese, pickle slices, butter, mustard
>> and mayo. I'm probably leaving out some total essential, but since
>> this is a cooked item, there is an absence of the salad-ey garnishes
>> of lettuce and tomato.
>>
>>> The History of  Mancino's Grinders and Pizza
>>>
>>> The term "Grinder" can be traced back to the east coast,
>>> where during WWI, Italian immigrants set up sandwich shops
>>> close to the shipyards.
>>
>> I'd be curious as to whether this applies to area housing the
>> Brooklyn Navy Yard, which once had a large Italian immigrant
>> community, but where, so far as I know, these sandwiches are
>> invariably known as heroes. But then other large Eastern port cities
>> could have evolved grinders as described.
>>
>> I fear for the nationalization of the regional term, sub, due both in
>> part to a rather aggressively rampant regionalism, and to more than
>> one now-national chain that sells them.
>>
>> Adamantius, devotee of prosciutto _or_ sopressata with roasted
>> peppers and mozzarella, not grilled
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