Christianity in SCA cookery. was Re: [Sca-cooks]pre-Columbianfoods
Martin G. Diehl
mdiehl at nac.net
Wed Nov 5 17:56:35 PST 2003
Ariane H wrote:
>
> ahrenshav at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >--- "Martin G. Diehl" <mdiehl at nac.net> wrote:
> >
> >>When you sing that to the score of the "Carmina
> >>Burana", do you use the music as originally
> >>written by Carl Orff, or the Ray Manzarek
> >>contemporary version (A&M CS-4945 [4-track],
> >>or AMLX64945 [CD])?
> >
> >Ummmm, Vincenzo, Orff didn't originally write the
> >Carmina Burana, he took the various parts of the
> >original and created his own variations of it.
> >
> >The original Carmina Burana is a collection of
> >poems, songs, and short plays found in
> >Benediktbeuern, a Benedictine abbey about 100 km
> >south of Munich, in 1803. This manuscript was of
> >13th century German origin and contained
> >approximately 250 poems...
> >
>
> Several of the poems are also set to music: there
> are neumes in the manuscript. If you want an idea
> of what the "original" music sounded like, there
> have been several recordings done by early music
> ensembles...my personal favorite is the one by the
> Boston Camerata.
>
> And besides, the quotation that started all this -
> "O tempora! o mores!" - is *not* from the Carmina
> Burana, but from Cicero's famous oration
> "In Catilinam" (the prosecution speech from a
> trial against Catiline, accused of conspiracy
> against the Roman Republic)....that predates the
> C.B. by over a millennium. (Not to be confused
> with the famous "O fortuna, velut luna" that opens
> Orff's oratorio.)
I wasn't confused ... just trying to make a funny. <g>
OTOH, perhaps during a feast, wisdom from the kitchen
_should_ be sung in Latin to the music of ...
[snip]
> Vittoria
Vincenzo
--
Martin G. Diehl
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