[Sca-cooks] Re: Wheatabix

[Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius]

Also sprach Sue Clemenger:
>Yeah, but Master A, you're a *Roman*, right? What would you know 
>from kings? <g>

Mostly that the Romans lived in horror at the thought of being ruled 
by one for about 800 years, and had Emperors that did not become de 
facto monarchs for about another hundred years after that, and then 
slowly ground to a halt as of that point? Does that count ;-) ?

>  (oh, wait, don't you live in the people's republic of the east? ;o)

Sure do!

>I'll admit, I wasn't thinking of the discussion below in terms of 
>capital "R" royalist, but rather small "r." ;o)  I (Sue) might 
>really find the 16th and 17th centuries fascinating but I (Maire) 
>wouldn't know and probably wouldn't care--she has enough hassles 
>putting up with the Anglo-Irish in 14th c. Dublin, to worry overly 
>much about what the English are doing to each other at home (which 
>is where they belong, no?)

Well, in theory, yes, but then that's kind of like feeling comfy 
among the Lowland Scots, but not among the English. Not much 
difference. But my point was just that the concept of absolute 
monarchy that is frequently associated with the term in the SCA seems 
to be pretty much an exaggeration of historical reality. I'm not 
sure, but maybe Henry VIII really _could_ have pulled off his line in 
that recent series about him on PBS, in which he says something like, 
"I can do whatever I want: I'm the king of England." But most other 
rulers in our period could not.

Adamantius

>--maire
>
>
>Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius wrote:
>
>>Also sprach Sue Clemenger:
>>
>>>Yeah, but Your Excellency, the Monarchy hasn't been the same since 
>>>those upstart Tudors muscled their way in.
>>>--maire
>>
>>
>>Actually, I understood that the term "Royalist" applies to a 
>>reactionary position in support of an arguably threatened Crown 
>>during the English Civil War. The first European king to genuinely 
>>resemble the definition most often used by SCAdians (all that 
>>"divine right" stuff) is probably Louis XIV. I suppose if everyone 
>>really does want to play this game the out-of-period way, that's 
>>okay, I guess, but... <shrug>...
>>
>>Adamantius
>
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