[Sca-cooks] Lamb (was Re: lent, wine, indulgences, de Nola)

Huette von Ahrens ahrenshav at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 28 14:39:02 PST 2004


Margaret,

This came from the book and the PBS show called
"The Story of English".  If you have problems
with this, write to the etymologists who were
used to produce the show and book.

Huette

--- "Pixel, Goddess and Queen"
<pixel at hundred-acre-wood.com> wrote:
> Dredging this one up again...
> 
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 ranvaig at columbus.rr.com
> wrote:
> 
> > >  >From Huette von Ahrens:
> > >
> > >"All the AS words [sheep, cow, pig, deer]
> show
> > >that the Saxons were the caretakers of the
> > >animals.
> > >
> > >All the Norman words [mutton, beef, pork,
> > >venison]
> > >show that the Normans were the eaters of the
> > >animals."
> > >
> > >Which is interesting considering that
> venison was not orignally just used to
> > >refer to cooked deer, but wild game on four
> legs in general...
> >
> > Which shows that the Normans doing the
> hunting too.
> >
> > Ranvaig
> 
> Or merely that the Normans were doing the
> writing. History is written by
> the victors, after all. I would argue that,
> rather than the theory of word
> usage showing that the Normans were doing the
> eating, the word usage shows
> that the Normans were writing the cookbooks.
> The first cookery manuscripts
> are, after all, written in Norman French or are
> posited translations from
> a French manuscript.
> 
> I refuse to believe that only the Normans did
> any hunting, and that only
> the Normans ate meat during the MA. If that
> were true, then there wouldn't
> be people with English surnames mentioned in
> the court records for
> poaching. For instance.
> 
> Has anybody considered that the word usage
> might have something to do with
> French being the language of the upper classes
> for so long?
> 
> Margaret
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