[Sca-cooks] test

[Martin G. Diehl]

Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise wrote:
> 
> > testing to see if non-threaded e-mail is showing up 
> > for me
> 
> Yes, it does show up. But people appear to be reading and 
> addressing their email in threaded order. :) (I've seen 
> my own postings show up but if they aren't tagged onto an 
> existing very active thread, I don't start to see 
> responses until days or weeks later. :)
> 
> -- Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, 
> -- Knowledge Pika jenne at fiedlerfamily.net 

A 'late' reply could be caused by nothing more sinister 
than backlog, away, or internet lag.  

I'm not sure that everyone arranges their INBOX as 
'threaded' ... consider the number of times that a new 
subject gets hidden within another thread.  Some people 
click 'reply to' instead of 'compose' and since they 
don't 'thread' their incoming messages, they can't 
predict what will happen to someone else who does.  

In addition, consider that sometimes a new (not a reply) 
message has a subject that matches an older one that is 
still in the message folder.  When I use threading, the 
new message may appear (hide) with a 2 year old message.  

e.g. in my SCA-Cooks folder, the current 'Cookie Exchange' 
messages are threading with older messages from 11/27/2002.  

Also messages with subject 'test' may thread with older 
messages dating back to 10/20/2002.  

Whenever I realize that I am not seeing all of the new 
messages that downloaded, I sort by 'order received'.  

Once the message(s) are bearing the eMail header tag 
'References' they thread with a specific message which 
has the corresponding 'Message-ID' value.  This happens 
even if the subject changes.  

Replies from people with the 'Digest' option on also do 
not thread -- they don't have the cross reference to the 
earlier message ... while a 'reply to' one of those Digest 
messages will thread with the first in that bunch.  

Here is a specific (boring, but may be helpful) 
2 message threading example ... 
                         
======================(1)======================
Cadoc's message which threads with a 2 year old Test message: 
Subject: [Sca-cooks] test
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:04:52 -0500
Message-ID: <de0751f04112314042823a1bd at mail.gmail.com>
===============================================

======================(2)======================
Jadwiga's reply to Cadoc which threads by the 'References' 
header value and whatever that message threads with: 
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] test
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:45:02 -0500
From: Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise 
      <jenne at fiedlerfamily.net>
Message-ID: <20041124144502.GA17775 at fiedlerfamily.net>
References: <de0751f04112314042823a1bd at mail.gmail.com>
==============================================

WOW!  This is just as bad as remaining in persona while 
giveing a lucid explanation of how Quantum Mechanics 
relates to Super String theory and also using light 
cones to consider a time travel question.  ... 

Or, even worse, while defending a grant application.  

Please don't ask me to explain the 'fun to read' (NOT!) 
messages that have a mix of long and short lines ... 
especially after they have gone through several 
generations of replies.  ... Because I will.  <g> 

Vincenzo

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Martin G. Diehl

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