[Sca-cooks] Rotten meat and spices...

dale elliott el2iot2 at mail.com
Tue Apr 12 10:07:43 PDT 2005


One point about this article.

Althought not in the Middle Ages, the death watch part is not entirely correct.  For reference see the UK and US patent office records.  Coffins mounted with bells, horns, wistles, breathing tubes, etc all leading to the surface, where submitted to the patent offices commonly during the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries.  Few were ever made, but the ideas were not that far from the public mindset.  

Just a point of information
Joy
Radei
----- Original Message -----
From: Phlip <phlip at 99main.com>
To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>, EKCooksGuild at yahoogroups.com, mk-cooks at midrealm.org, SCAFoodandFeasts at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Rotten meat and spices...
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:18:59 -0400

> 
> OK, guys, we're getting some help on the "rotten meat" issue. This is from
> the lady who wrote the article I forwarded the url to you guys a few days
> ago, where she's debunking that annoying article that keeps coming around
> about the bad old days.
> 
> http://historymedren.about.com/od/dailylifesociety/a/bod_intro.htm
> 
> As I mentioned, I wrote her a letter thanking her for the article, and the
> following is her response. Since she's helping sort out that other annoying
> myth, about rotten meat and too many spices, I figured we could help her out
> a bit. Yes, Stefan, the first thing I did was send her to the Florilegium
> ;-) However, I remember us discussing a few other things on SCA Cooks List,
> and I'd very much like to have the citations, if y'all can find them. One of
> them was about the butcher who was punished by being made to wear the rotten
> meat around his nexk- another was a discussion of how many critters were
> used in a given town- I think the first cite was from England, the second
> from Italy.
> 
> I'd also be interested in anything else y'all have in the way of related
> citations, helping prove the point- what I'd like to do is collect
> everything y'all come up with, combine them into one email (with appropriate
> credit) and send the information off to her in one email, rather than
> innundating her with a bazillion of them.
> 
> Thanks ;-)
> 
> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> 
> > Hello, Phlip,
> >
> > Thank you for your kind comments about the "Bad Old Days" feature. It
> > was amazingly easy to debunk the nonsense with an encyclopedia and a
> > fews good books. I get some good feedback, although I think a lot of
> > people would prefer to think that medieval people were stupid, filthy
> > and just plain silly. Maybe because it makes them feel superior by
> > comparison?
> >
> > In the future, I hope to continue "mythbusting," and the "covering up
> > the flavor of rotten meat with lots of spices" myth is one of the first
> > things I'll address, along with dental hygiene and the right of "first
> > night." If you have any other myths you'd like to see debunked, I'm
> > wide open to suggestions, and if you have any sources you'd like to
> > recommend, I'd appreciate it if you'd pass them along.
> >
> > I hope you continue to enjoy your visits to the Medieval History site!
> >
> > Best,
> > Melissa Snell
> > About Guide to Medieval History
> > http://historymedren.about.com/
> > On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Phlip wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello, Melissa,
> > >
> > > Just wanted to thank you for your article debunking that obnoxious
> > > urban
> > > legend running around, "Liufe in the Middle Ages" (or 15th century, or
> > > whatever they're calling it this week). As you said, initially it was
> > > mildly
> > > amusing, but since then, I've had it sent to me several times, and
> > > actually
> > > had ignorant yutzes try to quote it to me, to "prove" some idiocy or
> > > another. I shall keep, cherish, and disseminate the url copiously ;-)
> > >
> > > Now, any chance you can do anything about "People in the Middle ages
> > > used
> > > lots of spices to cover up the flavor of rotten meat" ? I'll be more
> > > than
> > > happy to help you with the research.
> > >
> > > Saint Phlip,
> 
> Saint Phlip,
> CoD
> 
> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>   Blacksmith's credo.
> 
>   If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
> cat.
> 
> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> 
> 
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joy

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