[Sca-cooks] When DID the Renaissance End???(was:Nocino, period cordial or not?

[Johnna Holloway]

Report from the Grand Council: July, 2002 Detail
4) CUTOFF DATE FOR ACTIVITIES

Another topic touched upon in the GC’s discussion was the lax 
enforcement of cutoff date for activities. While the members acknowledge 
that there are some items that cannot be verified except with post-1600 
material, and that some material (dance manuals, recipe books) which are 
published shortly after 1600 C.E. probably contain pre-1600 material, 
the salient issue is personae. At one time, some secondary but 
authoritative documents suggested that the cutoff date was 1650 C.E., 
and as a result a number of persons developed Cavalier personas and 
others from the period 1600-1650. After the documents were corrected and 
the cutoff date “enforced,” it would be acceptable to grandfather in 
those persons who had developed a Cavalier persona.

There were some side discussions on the topic of whether the cutoff date 
should be rolled back to the fifteenth century, to encompass a time 
period more homongenous in mental activity and beliefs than that of the 
SCA as currently stated. Other dates were also suggested. The debate was 
inconclusive. Some members did indicate that they would approve 
enforcement as a way of requiring all participants to wear appropriate 
garb, but not for other purposes.

This suggestion (to mandate enforcement of a cutoff date, and disallow 
post-1600 personae) failed, as it was opposed by 19 of 27 members 
voting, or by a margin of 59% opposed to 41% approving or abstaining.

http://www.schuldy.org/gc/index.html

The heralds have these terms spelled out-

Documented.
    Found in a source that was created before 1600 A.D. More recent
    sources that quote sources created before 1600 are acceptable as
    documentation unless they are shown to be erroneous. See also Domain
    of the Society, Gray Area, Period.
Domain of the Society.
    Europe and areas that were in contact with Europe before 1600 A.D.
    See also Documented, Gray Area, Period.

Gray Area.

    For the purposes of documenting names and armory, anything that can
    be documented as late as 1650 may be considered acceptable, even
    though the official cut-off date of the SCA's domain as defined in
    Corpora is 1600. The period from 1601 to 1650 is known as the "gray
    area," and exists because it is logical to assume that something
    current in the period 1601-1650 may also have been current in the
    last years of the 16th Century, so long as there is no specific
    evidence to the contrary. Gray area documentation should only be
    used as a last resort. See also Documented, Domain of the Society,
    Period.

Period.

    A term used to refer to the culture the Society attempts to
    recreate, specifically "pre‑Seventeenth Century Western European
    culture". See also Domain of the Society, Gray Area.
Period of the Society.
    The time before 1600 A.D.
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/coagloss.html


When I joined in 1973, the end date was 1650 and there were a lot of 
Louis XIII and Anne of Austria
costumes after the 3 and 4 Musketeers movies came out too! We also had 
Pocahantas too!

Johnnae