[Sca-cooks] hydrosols

Sun Feb 27 23:49:25 PST 2005

--- Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:

> 
> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> 
> > These are people who distilled tobacco and actually took the water
> > internally as a medicament, which messes with my fragile sensibilities.
> >
> Modernly, tobacco is commonly used as a wormer. I know people who, as far as
> their religion goes, would never touch the stuff, who regularly buy plugs to
> feed their livestock. I have no doubt that its characteristics, like those
> of any plant, were included in the humoral theory, and applied accordingly.

Hopefully sparingly.... nicotine, in the right dose, is a powerful poison.  This coming from a man
who used to smoke 5 packs of Camel non-filters a day...

How do you spell hypocrite??

William de Grandfort

> 
> Saint Phlip,
> CoD
> 
> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>  Blacksmith's credo.
> 
>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
> cat.
> 
> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise" <jenne at fiedlerfamily.net>
> To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] hydrosols
> 
> 
> > > Okay. What about the *kefir* Lime Leaves and the Muskmelon, though?
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure... I am never sure which melons are period and which
> > aren't.
> >
> > Kafir limes are Citrus  hystrix; I'm not sure that the distilled water
> > of kafir lime leaves would be significantly different for our purposes
> > than the distilled water of other citrus leaves, though obviously a
> > connosieur would know the difference at once.
> >
> > > >and as distillers tended to distill anything they
> > > >got their hands on, someone probably made all of them at one time or
> > > >another.
> > > Yes, although this does get into whether having someone do something
> > > once makes it "period".
> >
> > Well, yes and no. Simple waters are very well documented, and it's
> > pretty obvious from the texts that distillers were inclined to distill
> > anything they thought would be interesting. Looking at the texts on
> > distilled waters I've studied, I'm pretty sure that distilling anything
> > you can get your hands on is period.
> >
> > By the way, here's Tusser's list of herbs to still in Summer:
> >
> > Herbs to Still in Summer
> >
> >    1. Blessed thistel.
> >    2. Betonye.
> >    3. Dill.
> >    4. Endive.
> >    5. Eyebright.
> >    6. Fennell.
> >    7. Fumetorie.
> >    8. Hop.
> >    9. Mints.
> >   10. Plantine.
> >   11. Roses, red and damaske.
> >   12. Respies.
> >   13. Sarefrage.
> >   14. Strawberries.
> >   15. Sorrell.
> >   16. Suckerie.
> >   17. Woodroffe, for sweete waters and cakes.
> >
> >
> > > I was thinking of this originally as distillates/waters used in period
> > > cooking, but this does bring up the fact that they also used these in
> > > personal care items. And I guess it also covers distilled beverages as
> > > well. Unfortunately, those are in three separate sections in the
> > > Florilegium. If you were looking for info on such things would you look
> > > under "hydrosols" or something else? Maybe I should use a different
> > > file name in such a file in the Florilegium.
> >
> > I would create a file on distilled waters and cross-index it.
> >
> > > >Most of Markham's compound waters call for alcohol but some of them do
> > > >not.
> > > Would you group info on water and alcohol distillates together in the
> > > same file? Apparently Markham did.
> >
> > Yes, I would.
> >
> > > I think study in this area might let SCA folks look into period
> > > distillation without crossing into activities which are illegal, at
> > > least in the US. This whole subject on orange flower waters and
> > > distilled essences is certainly new to me, so perhaps to others and
> > > worth getting into the Florilegium.
> >
> > I know there is a gentleman working on this, who has presented his work
> > several times at Pennsic. Unfortunately, I don't recall his name or the
> > name of his local group.
> >
> > > What are the resulting differences between creating this essence by
> > > infusion vs. distillation? Are the distilled essences going to be
> > > stronger? Or is there more to it than this? Are there particular
> > > essenses which extract better with alcohol than water?
> >
> > The short answer to your questions is, 'yes'.
> >
> > Distilled products are more stable than infusions. They also tend to be
> > stronger than the original botanical. Yes, most botancials-- and some
> > chemical constitutionents (sp?) are more easily extracted in alcohol
> > than in water.
> >
> > -- 
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