[Sca-cooks] puff pastry

[Micheal]

Greetings
That would be "new" pastry in Delightes for ladies 1605. As well as Florio 
1598 Fogliata as puff paste. The good Huswifes Jewwell 1586 are a few off 
the top of my head. I would have to actually crack a book to find more. But 
I would estimate that Puff Pastry came into practice in the late1400-1500 
time line long enough that some one finally wrote it down some where in the 
1500 hundreds.
 Okay straight out of A booke Cookery
" Puff Pastry is thought to been perfected by the brilliant chefs to the 
court of Tuscany, perhaps in the fifteenth century .  --- One of the 
Difficulties in Tracing the history arises from its Italian Name Pasta 
sfoglia , and its French name pate feuilletee."
 Which tends to make me think it was around slightly longer in rougher 
forms. Because they had to work get the idea from some where to developed.
 Da.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius" <adamantius.magister at verizon.net>
To: "Irmgart" <irmgart at gmail.com>; "Cooks within the SCA" 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] puff pastry


> Also sprach Irmgart:
>>OK... I have no idea even where to start with finding the answer to
>>this, so i thought I'd ask all of you educated cook type peoples ^_~
>>
>>Is puff pastry or a technique similar to puff pastry period?
>>
>>My gut instinct is "no." It has the feel of frou frou 19th c. French
>>cooking to me, but I haven't done any deep research into it (I've
>>googled but only spent about 20 min looking)
>>
>>Thanks!
>
> There's a more-or-less-recognizable puff pastry recipe under that name in 
> Sir Hugh Plat's Delightes for Ladies, IIRC, which would put it no later 
> than the late-16th-early-17th centuries. There may also be similar recipes 
> in The Usual Suspects for the time period, Markham and Digby. It's almost 
> certainly at least as old in France, and may have Arabic or Andalusian 
> antecedents that are considerably older.
>
> HTH,
>
> Adamantius
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> "Confessions", 1782
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