[Sca-cooks] sugar problems

Tom Vincent Tom.Vincent at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 6 15:54:38 PDT 2006

I found this at 
http://health.discovery.com/centers/quit_smoking/articles/weight.html :

    * Smoking does burn calories, up to 200 a day in a heavy smoker.
    * Smoking increases energy expenditure, or metabolism.
    * Quitting smoking causes weight gain because the body begins to
      work more efficiently. The body's metabolism slows and food is
      digested more efficiently.
    * Insulin levels increase, which enable the body to process more
      sugar for energy.

Makes sense to me, so I'll retract my "stopping smoking can't cause 
weight gain" claim.  My apologies.


Dan Brewer wrote:
> Stopping smoking does cause weight gain because the way that the chemicals
> that are in the smoke interfere with the absorption of nutrients.  When you
> stop smoking you body becomes more efficient at extracting nutrients from
> the food that we eat weight gain happens. Same number of calories in more
> extracted = weight gain.  The way to loose weight is to reduce the number of
> calories in and increase the amount of activity. Having said that the type
> of food we eat has a great effect on weight.  More simply processed foods
> less fat less sugar in any form more water.  So eat more often and eat less.
> Write down every thing you eat and the amount until you can determine what
> your body needs to survive.  I believe the amount is 13 calories per pound
> per day.  So if you figure out your weight (260 for me ) and your ideal
> weight (200)  I should consume 13X260= 3380 to stay the same weight and if I
> want to get to my ideal weight in need to consume 2600 calories a day so the
> net loss is 760.  No more than a quarter of you calories should come from
> fat and reduce salt intake.  These are just guidelines.  Do not reduce the
> number of calories more than 25 percent as you body will go into starvation
> mode and try to hold on to every little bit of fat it can.  Eating six to
> eight times a day helps to fool the body into converting its fat stores into
> something that can be used by the body.  
> Dan in Auburn 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sca-cooks-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:sca-cooks-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Tom Vincent
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:13 PM
> To: Cooks within the SCA
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] sugar problems
> I know that the body does tend to fight back when calorie levels drop, 
> but my thought would be that the daily calorie drop was too much and 
> that increased physical activity might be a better strategy.
> Twelve cans would be 560 calories (70 calories per 12 oz serving) over 
> 48 hours, assuming your description of 'one can 6 times a day' actually 
> meant 6 cans per day and not drinking the same can 6 times. ;>   And no 
> weight loss?  Inconceivable.  Certainly not a healthy diet by any 
> stretch, of course.
> My condolences on your cancer, but it is *impossible* for stopping 
> smoking to cause any weight gain -at all-.
> I'm not being judgmental:  I'm overweight myself.  I'm looking to 
> encourage a supportive environment of a healthier lifestyle within the SCA.
> Duriel
> Elaine Koogler wrote:
>> I'm not saying that math lies, but what I believe happens with me when I 
>> try to diet is that my body sort of adjusts how it burns calories...and 
>> I have had this verified, by the way, by a nutritionist.  The idea is 
>> that when I cut back on calories, the old "bod" says, "Oh, she's taking 
>> in fewer calories, so I'll modify how I burn those calories"  I even had 
>> one doctor who was so convinced that my weight loss was due to my 
>> cheating, that he required that, for 48 hours, I consume nothing but one 
>> 8 oz can of V-8 juice 6 times a day.  He guaranteed that I would lose 
>> several pounds.  As it turns out, I didn't lose an ounce.
>> I'm sticking to the diet now to the point that my glucose levels range 
>> usually from 20 - 40 below what the doctor and the diabetes specialist 
>> tell me it should be.  However, though I am losing a little in the way 
>> of size, I've been stuck on a weight plateau for the past two 
>> weeks...haven't lost an ounce.  Sigh.  Hopefully Pennsic and all of the 
>> running around there will kick start it again.
>> My lord, don't be so judgmental  of those of us who are overweight.  I 
>> have fought my weight all my life...stopping smoking caused a serious 
>> weight gain as did chemotherapy for breast cancer.   Even if I lose all 
>> of the weight I gained from both events, I still won't be a small 
>> person...the smallest dress size I've been able to get into as an adult 
>> was a size 11 when I was a senior in College...and I was skinny!!
>> Kiri
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Tom Vincent
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