[Sca-cooks] Sign of the Times perhaps --Dinner atCrown - cancelled

Daniel & Elizabeth Phelps dephelps at embarqmail.com
Fri May 23 05:14:28 PDT 2008


We are having our Crown List this weekend, too. Estimated 900+ people there, 
the site issue is a major one in Trimaris because land is so expensive in 
Florida, so many camping sites have been sold off and turned into 
subdivisions, or they just can't handle that many people.  It's an ongoing 
issue in the whole kingdom.
I wonder why A&S was added? That would seem to complicate an already 
complicated issue, I think we run small A&S competitions at the big crown 
events sometimes but the big semiannual A&S competitions themselves are 
separate events.
Thanks Avelyn for the info on what this sort of thing is like from the side 
of the facility-as an amateur cook, I had no knowledge of this sort of thing 
(except from my wedding 13 years ago), so this is interesting to know, and 
something to definitely file away for future reference. ("We'd better make 
them happy at this site or we'll end up using some place where we can't cook 
our own food" conversations at baronial meetings...)
Hopefully Midrealm will get this issue sorted out at future events; it would 
be a real bummer to win Crown and not be able to have a feast, IMO.
Here in Tallahassee, premium is up to $4.19, yesterday regular was $3.89 
where I went; other places in Florida are more. Definitely an issue for 
everybody this summer.
YIS,
Isabella de la Gryffin
Barony of Oldenfeld

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
Frank Zappa

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like 
administering medicine to the dead.
Thomas Paine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Johnna Holloway" <johnnae at mac.com>
To: "Cooks within the SCA" <sca-cooks at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Sign of the Times perhaps --Dinner atCrown - 
cancelled


> Part of the trouble of course is that the dates for Midrealm Spring 
> Crown/Kingdom A&S finals are inflexible.
> It's now Memorial Day weekend, with a site needed for both Saturday and 
> Sunday
> and the feast is now Sunday night. So you need something like a conference 
> center or
> fair grounds, huge cooperative school, or a huge hotel just as Avelyn has 
> already mentioned.
> You can't bid a weekend earlier in May or a weekend in June to save money.
>
> If you rent another hall and do the feast in another place, you still have 
> deal with having people
> make their way across town. (But it's been done in the past and the Crown 
> feast that I did in Starleaf Gate
> was in fact in a hall across town. I never saw the day event site so I 
> can't say what it was like.)
> We've also used some university sites in the past and cooked the feast in 
> a church hall.
> (The first major Crown that I baked for was in May 1974. It was done on 
> the
> University of Illinois campus on the last day of finals. Fighting was held 
> in the stock pavilion
> with the feast in the McKinley foundation's great hall. They did a double 
> elimination list
> with something like 50-60 fighters that day too.This was not Memorial Day 
> weekend.)
> This was of course before A&S was attached to the event. That requires the 
> equivalent of another
> event and another day added to an already major event.
>
> Both Coronation and Crown ended up
> being in Kentucky this year and that might have dampened the enthusiasm of 
> heading
> to both in the same state and again as I stated earlier the high gasoline 
> prices may be
> dampening the travels of some. Site fees were also an additional
> $10 for adults for the two days; $8 for 13-17; $5 for 6-12.
> Rooms ran $79-$89 per night.
>
> I mis-spoke about gas being a high of $4.09 here in town. It was actually 
> already
> $4.35 last evening at the two stations near the interstate.
>
> Johnnae
>
> Avelyn Grene wrote:
>> Having very recently worked in a hotel/conference center/catering 
>> facility similar to the one where Crown is being held, I see both sides 
>> of the problem.
>>
>> Finding an easily accessible site in the Cincinnati area, that can hold 
>> 4-600 people, and all of the different activities  we hold for our Spring 
>> Crown (which includes Kingdom A&S) is certainly not an easy task, and 
>> sites that can accommodate this are few and far between, and generally 
>> limited to fairgrounds (which require a whole lot more  work and 
>> planning) and conference centers (at least from what I have seen in this 
>> area).  From an SCAdian point of view, this is one of the easiest ways to 
>> ensure that everything should work out the way you need it to, as you 
>> have basically hired a site to do everything for you.
>>
>> This does come with drawbacks (food wise):
>> I hope that made sense - I am usually asleep by now...
>>
>> Avelyn
>>
>>
>
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