[Sca-cooks] 10th-13th century Turkish was Sixteenth Century Turkish

H Westerlund-Davis yaini0625 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 13 11:20:10 PDT 2010


The term "Viking" is a very broad term for a culture that was has its roots in originally in Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland. It sounds like Viking and Turkish can mean a broad area of history. Did you mean Vikings in the Turkish Empire? 

From "Medieval Scandinavia: An Encyclopedia by Phillip Pulsiano and Kirsten Wolf. Kirsten Wolf is a professor of Scandinavian studies at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. The book is out of print, but if you can pick one up it is a wealth of information on Medieval Scandinavia. 

pg. 17 Arabic Sources for Scandinavians 
reference: ar-Rús  (ár-Rusiya) -Russia and easterly areas
reference: al-majus- Andalusian or North African Sources meaning "Vikings of the West."
pg 18 Ibn Khurradadhbih (ca. 825-912) writes about how Rus merchants carry their wares (furs and swords) along the Rusian Rivers to the Black Sea and the Caspian-travel from the Caspian to Jurjan and then to Baghdad.

There is precious little actually written down in a way of "cook books" related to Medieval Scandinavia cooking. What is written down comes from Iceland or Gotland after 1200. What we do know is also from archaeological digs. York is the most famous and the Viking Answer Lady references it in her articles/sites. I have two research documents from the dig in Dublin, Ireland. I am also translating the finds in Sweden and Northern Russia. As Russia and the Ukraine opens up more research is being done in Moscow, Staria Lodoga (St. Petersbugs) and else where there is more information coming out of the significant influences of the Vikings in East. Making any connections during this time is like piecing a puzzle together.

Just my two cents,
Aelina



 


 

 





Ian Kusz answered:
>  anything in, say, early medieval/viking, say, 900-1200?
then explained:
>  sorry, I meant medieval/viking age Turkey. I'm unclear on the terminology.

I will assume that what you mean by Turkey is the boundaries of modern Turkey, since there was no Turkey before the Ottomans

It also depends on whether you mean the European part of modern Turkey or Anatolia, the Asian part of modern Turkey.

The European part was controlled by the Eastern Roman Empire, known beginning in the 19th century as Byzantium, throughout the time period you ask about.

And in the 10th c. (900s) much of Anatolia was under the control of Byzantium, and this was the case through much of the 11th c.

By the late 11th c., however, most of Anatolia was controlled by the Empire of the Seljuk Turks, although Byzantium remained in control of parts of the north and west.

In the early 13th c. (1200s) northern and western Anatolia were still controlled by Byzantium. Central and Eastern Anatolia were ruled by the Seljuk Sultanate of Rum. And southern Anatolia was known as Little Armenia, aka the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia, created by Armenian refugees fleeing the Seljuk Turkish invasion of Armenia.

By the end of the 13th c (1200s) Anatolia was divided up among Byzantium (not much but still hanging on in bits of the north and west), the much reduced Seljuk Sultanate of Rum in the east, around a dozen different Turkic tribal groups throughout the middle and north, a tiny bit remaining of Little Armenia in the southeast, and a finger of the Perso-Turco-Mongol Il-Khanate extending along the south.

And finally, we have very limited information about food in any of these times and cultures.
-- Urtatim [that's err-tah-TEEM]
the persona formerly known as Anahita
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