[Sca-cooks] odd

Ana Valdés agora158 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 20 15:20:38 PST 2011


That's really fun and interesting to see how old Ethnicities are performed.
Some years ago I visited a very WASP friend, Barbara, born in Virginia and
North American for several generations. She lives in Madison, New Jersey,
and she wanted to introduce us to an old friend, a Scottish gentleman.
He opened the door and he wore the traditional Scottish kilt and a short
coat with some Tartan pattern. He explained to us it was the tartan
belonging to his clane, a typical Highland clane.
But my Swedsih friend and me were a bit puzzled, he spoke perfect American
and he didn't have the charasteristic Scottish accent.
We asked him when did he leave Scottland to live in the US and he laughed
:"Good Lord, it was the father of my grandfather who made the trip,. I visit
Scottland to be in a cousin's gathering every ten years.
But he considered himself a Scottish gentleman living in Madison,. New
Jersey.
Ana

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Terry Decker <t.d.decker at att.net> wrote:

> The ethnic identifiers are an artifact of the United States heterogeneous
> culture, group superiority complexes and our national efforts to balance and
> secure liberty and equality for citizens (we're not too good at fraternity,
> so maybe we'll turn some attention to that in future).  They're for ease of
> statistical analysis and to provide data required by some of our rather
> cumbersome laws that are meant to enforce the spirit and letter of our
> Constitution.
>
> Latino refers specifically to a person (citizen or not) whose family is
> from Latin America.  Europeans need not apply.  Hispanic is the broader term
> and refers to anyone of Spanish ethnicity.
>
> If you want to have some real fun, consider that in New Mexico, whites
> (WASPs, San Patricios, etc., etc.) and blacks are "Anglos" except when the
> black is from a family that emigrated into the state with the Spanish
> migration in the 17th and 18th Centuries.  In that case, they and any of the
> long settled citizens of Spanish extraction are "Natives" except when a
> Native American is present, then they are "Hispanic."  Recent immigrants of
> Spanish ethnicity are "Latinos" to distinguish them from the Colonial Period
> immigrants.  Fortunately, this is local cultural thing that isn't reflected
> in government papers.  Richard Bradford presented this far better in Red Sky
> at Morning.
>
> WASP is sociological jargon.  The term was defined for the public by Andrew
> Hacker, a political scientist, in 1957 to identify members of an affluent
> and political powerful subset of (White) people in U.S. whose families were
> of English descent (Anglo-Saxon) and Protestant denomination.  The reference
> is primarily to the aristocratic families with the wealth and privilege that
> allowed them to socially and politically control the Northeastern states and
> influence national politics.
>
> Bear
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> I have always being puzzled for that question in the inmigration form to
> enter the US. Am I Caucasian? Definitely, very white skin :) But Spanish
> grandfathers from dad's site and Italian grandfathers from mom's side make
> me definitely "Latino". But in Europe the definition "Latino" doesn't
> exist,
> yes, Italy, Spain and France are "latin countries", it means countries were
> Latin was spoken.
> The "Latino" word as an opposite to a vague and confusing Northerner's,
> WASP
> identity it's an US invention.
> Ana
>
>
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