[Sca-cooks] Interesting article-

Laura C. Minnick lcm at jeffnet.org
Thu Feb 20 18:43:02 PST 2014


I don't think I said anything about barbarian hordes, and at any rate, 
the Franks were quite late to that party. To a large extent they moved 
into a gap left when the other tribes pushed out towards the edges.The 
Saxons, on the other hand, invited to help settle a civil war, landed on 
British soil that was still held by other tribes. And they didn't 
particularly care to share. In a way, they're still fighting.

Bonnie Effros might have something to say, about the Franks at least. I 
don't have time to plow through it at the moment though- I'm teaching a 
section of Western Civ (Constantine through Charlemagne) at an event 
Saturday and I still have prep work to do.

Liutgard

On 2/19/2014 7:43 AM, JIMCHEVAL at aol.com wrote:
> The parallel is in modern preconceptions of how all this change happened.
> On the Frankish side, I don't think there's any serious recent historian who
>   still accepts the narrative of "barbarian hordes" wiping out what was left
> of  Roman civilization. I know less about the English side, but certainly
> the  article suggests a similar idea exists about the end of Roman rule in
> England.  And it is interesting to see that paleoanthropology can undermine
> the old ideas  in both cases.
>   
> Jim  Chevallier
>   (http://www.chezjim.com/) www.chezjim.com
>
> Les Leftovers: sort of a food history  blog
> leslefts.blogspot.com
>
>   
> In a message dated 2/19/2014 3:02:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> lcm at jeffnet.org writes:
>
> Of  course, the linked article had nothing to do with the Franks, or the
> Continent, but was specific to the British Isles. And there are far too
> many other factors involved to suggest that there was any  parallel.
>
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