[Sca-cooks] What is the difference between a pie and a tart?

Carol Smith eskesmith at hotmail.com
Fri Nov 28 19:12:15 PST 2014


Thank you for the clarification, Bear.
 
Regards,
Brekke

 
> From: t.d.decker at att.net
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> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:18:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] What is the difference between a pie and a tart?
> 
> Tarts are filled pastry dough without a top.  Pies have a slightly broader 
> definition being either open or completely sealed in dough.  Thus a tart may 
> be a pie, but a pie might not be a tart.  However, the words tend to be used 
> synonymously.
> In terms of word origin, tart appears to be the older in English entering 
> Old English from Old High German, while pie seems to come into Middle 
> English from Latin, possibly via French.  I don't have my OED available to 
> do a more thorough check.
> 
> The argument is similar to the question of precisely what is krapfen, which 
> varies regionally in Germany.
> 
> Bear
> 
> 
> Brekke commented:
> <<< pumpkin tart (new this year, in lieu of pumpkin pie) >>>
> 
> Okay, what do you see as the difference between a pie and a tart? Brekke, 
> why wasn’t the tart as good as a pie?  Did you vary the filling?
> 
> I’ve struggled with this for years in trying to figure out whether to put 
> various messages in the tart-msg file or one of the pie-msg files. I thought 
> pies had top crusts, but tarts did not. However, this would mean than all 
> those things called pumpkin pies in the stores and restaurants are actually 
> pumpkin tarts, not pumpkin pies.
> 
> Perhaps I should just merge both together, but split them out by filling 
> types.
> 
> Thanks,
>   Stefan
> 
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