ST - Re: ES - flagpole Hill
Glen Wilkerson
gdwilkerson at earthlink.net
Fri Apr 20 12:43:20 PDT 2001
Thanks for the assist Thorkel, but that was my post, and I have not pontificated any more or less than anyone else has that has contributed to this debate. I completely understand the concern for clean, working, and accessable facilities, especially when it comes to their use by the ladies and children of our groups - and I agree. But, as to my last post, I was merely making an observation about Flagpole Hill, and I will admit it was many years ago when the event occurred. It was a Sunday morning practice after a Twelfth Night a long time ago, and I became very ill and sick to my stomach. Since 1979 it has been the ONLY time I have ever had to avail myself of the facilities, either at the top or bottom of the hill.
"Real Men can hold their urine." - Roman gladiator on holiday, to his son, while charioting along the Appian Way; Great Moments in Real Man History from "Real Men Don't Eat Quiche," by Bruce Feirstein.
Now can everyone please just lighten up? ;^{>
Don Alaric
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn McFarland <glennmc at ti.com>
To: steppes at ansteorra.org <steppes at ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: ST - Re: ES - flagpole Hill
Your Highness,
I will respectfully remind you that what is being asked of this group is
to change 20+ years of tradition and to leave a place that many people
have fond memories of and has served us well over this long period of
time.
It may well be in the Steppes best interest to make this change after all
these years, but that decision must come after careful consideration of
all concerns. That consideration will also include "pontificating" by
various parties on both sides as well as much deliberate and reasoned
debate.
The pace may seem too slow for you, and the answer obvious, but in the end
the Steppes will reach the decision that best meets the needs of its people
as a whole and that is what is truly important.
Regards,
Thorkel
Trish Kvamme wrote:
"There are (or were) very nice working flush restrooms at the bottom of the
hill next to the ranger station that used to be accessible. I don't know if
they are still working or not or even if they are open now. We probably
need to check with the personnel there at the station house..."
They are long gone, along with the rank porta potty's that were there last
summer.
I will bring my stuff out on the weekends I am not out of town (there are
actually a few) and welcome anyone who wants to come over to this side of
town to come and play with me, and I am sure Rick and a few others.
There is a lovely ramada that is large enough for us and probably a company
pick nick. Yes the fighting field is sunny, but they all are, what's new.
There are lovely bathrooms that are kept clean, running water, real drinking
fountains, a place where my kids can play safely.
We have had 5 sets of fighters merrily going at it with room for many, many
more.
I am sorry if this offends anyone but I don't think that those who fight
each week or even those of us who would like to and can't because of the
flagpole site's lack of facilities should have to wait around for everyone
to finish pontificating.
So, for those of you who want to play, I will be there with my husband on
the weekends that we can, and everyone who would like to is always welcome
to come and play.
We may even BBQ since they have facilities for that too.
Larissa
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