[Steppes] "off-calendar" event

[Faelan Caimbeul]

I beg to differ. I just read through the event section Kingdom Law and from
what it tells me, all events are events. The requirements are identical,
except that the Kingdom Seneschal must declare a multi-group event to be
such. Since non-Kingdom Calendar events can, and are required to be,
advertised and put on at least our local calendar, "off calendar" might not
be an appropriate term to use for non-Kingdom calendar events. Incidently,
multi-group events, which I assume is what people are referring to by
"regional event", hold the same status as any other non-Kingdom Calendar
event; so it would make no difference, legally, if we did one of our events
with someone else's help or not. The end result is the same. There is also
no mention of being able to make a multi-group event a Kingdom Calendar
event. The difference between the three types is that Kingdom Calendar
events can have "Formal actions and announcements with long-term impact on
the Society", the rest cannot. That says to me Royal Court. No AoAs, no
peerages, etc.

Now, the sea lawyer in me sees this as meaning Society level business, but
not Kingdom business. A Peerage is Society level, since it carries the same
weight everywhere, so is an AoA, but Kingdom and Baronial A&S titles and
awards don't necessarily carry any weight outside our own Kingdom. Granted,
I know the commonly accepted idea is that you can't give out any awards, but
I definitely think the "as long as it carries no Kingdom precedence" rule
applies here as well. But, when in doubt, ask a Seneschal.

I don't really want to take Artisan, or any of our events off the Kingdom
Calendar, but it also is clearly stated we get exactly two events. We've
slipped 12th Night through for a few years by doubling up with a Kingdom
recurring event, but we can't do that now. The question we need to ask is
this, which event must come off the calendar, and why? We don't really have
a choice.

As much as I hate to say it, Artisan is the obvious, and best choice.
Artisan is its own thing, with it's own customs and awards, and doesn't
really have a lot of outside business to deal with. This makes it special,
and also means is doesn't need Kingdom Calendar status, since it doesn't
deal with "formal actions and announcements with long-term impact on the
Society." We're awarding a local, non-armigerous title. Granted, the
competition itself has garnered a wonderful reputation in Kingdom, and in
Kingdom the title means a lot, but does it mean anything to a Trimarian, or
Drachen?

Warlord and 12th Night, on the other hand, have traditionally had at least
one peerage each (this year's 12th Night was a rare exception I'm told), a
stack of awards for everyone and their brother and marathon courts because
of it. It seems there has been great care taken in the past to make sure
that doesn't happen at Artisan so as not to detract from it's purpose. This
is a good thing, and would be both preserved, and insured by removing it
from Kingdom Calendar status, thus ensuring the temptation to do otherwise
is removed.

This would have no affect on the competition itself, and indeed frees us to
continue to do things our way, by our rules. We can continue as we always
have, without any other group's help or input, and preserve what's been
established these many years. We can still advertise in the Black Star and
on email lists, we can still hold court (albeit Baronial only), and still
give out local awards since they legally hold no precedence Kingdom wide.

This could be an opportunity to award more local kudos to those that deserve
them without needing to contend with Kingdom business and all that entails.
It's our event, not the Kingdom's, so we can be a little greedy in that
regard. This can also have a spill over effect of taking those awards out of
Warlord and 12th Night courts which would be just our Kingdom awards for
local members, and shortening those courts a little, which makes everyone
happy.

Just rearranging the shelves . . . .

Faelan



On 4/24/07, Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net> wrote:
>
> I get the feeling that some people are using the phrase "off-calendar
> event" in a sense isn't equivalent to its actual meaning, and that;'s part
> of why we aren't communicating.
>
> Before we get too far, let's remember what an "off-calendar event"
> is.  Technically, it's not an event.  It's the legal equivalent of a fighter
> practice or a guild meeting.
>
> I would no more have Artisan at an off-calendar event than I would have
> Warlord at a fighter practice, and for the same reasons.
>
> I also don't want to see Twelfth Night as an off-calendar event, for
> similar reasons.  (It's not the same reasons, because we don't choose any
> Steppes ceremonial Champions there.)
>
> Let's remember, in this discussion, that an off-calendar event is not an
> event, just as an empty beer isn't a beer and a retired seneschal isn't a
> seneschal.
>
> Robin of Gilwell / Jay Rudin
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