[Sca-cooks] Noty or Notye

Phil Troy / G. Tacitus Adamantius adamantius.magister at verizon.net
Fri Feb 4 17:09:27 PST 2005


Also sprach Chris Stanifer:
>--- Robin Carroll-Mann <rcmann4 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>  Not a linguistic flame (not a flame, actually), but a culinary comment. 
>>  I would be *very* surprised to see lemon juice in a recipe written in
>>  Middle English.  Even in the Mediterranean corpus, there's very little
>>  use of lemon until late period.
>
>
>
>There is a mosaic in Pompeii which depicts a lemon.
>There are lemon-shaped earrings found in the Indus Valley dating 
>back to 2500 BC
>Crusaders returning to Europe from Palestine were said to have 
>carried lemons back with them.
>
>"    The first clear literary evidence of the lemon tree in any 
>language dates from the early
>tenth-century Arabic work by Qustus al-Rumi in his book on farming.3 
>At the end of the twelfth
>century, Ibn Jamií, the personal physician to the great Muslim 
>leader Saladin, wrote a treatise on
>the lemon, after which it is mentioned with greater frequency in the 
>Mediterranean"
>
>The above citation is from an online article written by Clifford A Wright.
>http://www.cliffordawright.com/history/lemonade.html
>
>I have also heard that the Greeks may well have been cultivating 
>lemons within our early period of
>interest.

Yes, and I believe they also appear in several of the Tacuinum 
Sanitatis manuscripts. The question is, what would the English be 
doing with them, and if anything, how did they get them?

Adamantius
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