[Sca-cooks] Roman Ketchup?

lilinah at earthlink.net lilinah at earthlink.net
Thu Sep 9 15:32:52 PDT 2010

Aelina wrote:
>While researching on a totally unrelated topic I found this "discussion." I
>thought tomatoes were "New World?"

I only get the front page of
this way and can't figure out where to find a discussion of Roman 
ketchup. Can you provide the actual webpage URL on which tomatoes are 

I have over the years seen numerous items called ketchup that have 
nothing to do with tomato ketchup.

The word is used in Indonesia and Malaysia for soy sauce, a use that 
predates the creation of tomato ketchup. I have even heard of an 
English sauce called walnut ketchup. So i can readily imagine calling 
garum/garon ketchup...

But i won't know the claims of this webpage until i see it.

(pause) (fiddle around on Danish website again)

Ah hah! When i use the site's search engine and enter ''ketchup'', i 
get pages that mention garum, which as we all know, was chiefly made 
of fish/fish parts. And garum or at least the wide variety of 
Southeast Asian fish sauces i have tried are far closer in flavor and 
use to soy sauce, aka ketchap in Bahasa Indonesia/Malayu, than either 
one is to tomato ketchup.
Urtatim [that's err-tah-TEEM]
the persona formerly known as Anahita

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