[Sca-cooks] Roman Ketchup Revised

Saint Phlip phlip at 99main.com
Fri Sep 10 06:47:48 PDT 2010


Likely because of the vinegar.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:31 AM, H Westerlund-Davis <yaini0625 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>  Myapologies, here is a better version-I hope- of the article/abstract.
> http://www.sagnlandet.dk/GARUM-THE-KETCHUP-FOR-THE-ROMANS.1041.0.html
> It is Garum aka Ketchup. Which from the abstract sounds like a fish sauce.
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> My question then is how did the terminology or word "ketchup" become used for
> the tomato version? It sounds like it started off as a fish sauce of sorts.
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> From: Terry Decker <t.d.decker at att.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Sca-cooks] Roman Ketchup?
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> The term ketchup probably derives from the Malay word "kechap" which refers to a
> fish sauce.  The word appears in English in 1690.  In the 18th and 19th Century,
> ketchup was used as a generic reference to a number sauces with the only common
> ingredient being vinegar.  Tomato ketchup is likely a 19th Century creation.
> Garum is a fish sauce, so I would say that the site is using a Danish word that
> translates as "ketchup" but has a meaning closer to that of "kechap."
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>> While researching on a totally unrelated topic I found this "discussion." I
>> thought tomatoes were "New World?"
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>> Aelina the Saami
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