[Sca-cooks] Fw: [Summits] Fw: Officially Period...the tomato

[lcm at jeffnet.org]

As
usual, it is a good thing to point out to those concerned in the
first posting, that just because they had tomatoes, does not mean
that they were a common foodstuff. Or even an occasional one. It is
something along the lines of the explanation that yes, they had
ground meats. Yes, they did have cheese. Yes, they did have bread
rolls. And yes, they did have pickles. But it does not mean that we
can run headlong with the argument and say that they had
cheeseburgers! So yes, they might have had tomatoes, perhaps as an
ornamental plant. But I don't think that marinara sauce is
necessarily the next step.
 Liutgard
 On Thu 02/10/11  3:32 PM , Raphaella DiContini raphaellad at yahoo.com
sent:
 I'm swamped up to my eyeballs today, but I thought this deserved a
forward. From 
 the illustration it does seem to be tomato, although I seem to recal
that they 
 had them and just didn't see them as a common food item. I just wish
I had saved 
 the Italian reference I sumbled upon years ago that refferred to
tomatos as 
 "lovely, but useless" as I haven't been able to find it again since.

 However I agree that like chocolate and other items I'd hate for
people to 
 assume that just because they were aware of a food item in some form

 that hershey bars and pizza with red sauce are viably historically
accurate. 
 In joyous service, 
 Raffaella 
 ----- Forwarded Message ----
 From: Beth Harrison 
 To: TerraPomaria at yahoogroups.com [2]; Summits 
 Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 11:33:42 AM
 Subject: [Summits] Fw: Officially Period...the tomato
 Sure, but you could add they were cooked with vinegar, which I
forgot to
 write here.  There is a good article out on
http://www.florilegium.org on
 period use of tomatoes.  The Italian translator says 'fried' but the
 German below says "cooked".  I'm not so sure I want to be behind a
 'lasagne is okay' wave of potluck dishes though.  And there is still
the
 warning that it is unhealthy.
 > Can I forward this message onto some email lists?  I think I know
a few
 > folks who would love to see this.
 >
 > Whoot - In the 1590 version of the Krauterbuch is the same spiel
about
 > tomatoes - cooked with oil and pepper (and vinegar) in Italy.  And
the 
 >internets >advise  this info comes from even earlier in the
century.  I am now 
 >craving
 > Italian food again :)  Meanwhile I'm geeking out on what kind of
mushrooms
 > were used in the 16th century. 
 >
 > See it yourself here:
 >
http://imgbase-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=772
 > and
 >
http://imgbase-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=773
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