[Sca-cooks] Fw: [Summits] Fw: Officially Period...the tomato

[David Walddon]

Marinara sauce is a stretch. 
Ketchup on the other hand . . .  :) 
Eduardo


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On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:22 PM, lcm at jeffnet.org wrote:

> As
> usual, it is a good thing to point out to those concerned in the
> first posting, that just because they had tomatoes, does not mean
> that they were a common foodstuff. Or even an occasional one. It is
> something along the lines of the explanation that yes, they had
> ground meats. Yes, they did have cheese. Yes, they did have bread
> rolls. And yes, they did have pickles. But it does not mean that we
> can run headlong with the argument and say that they had
> cheeseburgers! So yes, they might have had tomatoes, perhaps as an
> ornamental plant. But I don't think that marinara sauce is
> necessarily the next step.
> Liutgard
> On Thu 02/10/11  3:32 PM , Raphaella DiContini raphaellad at yahoo.com
> sent:
> I'm swamped up to my eyeballs today, but I thought this deserved a
> forward. From 
> the illustration it does seem to be tomato, although I seem to recal
> that they 
> had them and just didn't see them as a common food item. I just wish
> I had saved 
> the Italian reference I sumbled upon years ago that refferred to
> tomatos as 
> "lovely, but useless" as I haven't been able to find it again since.
> 
> However I agree that like chocolate and other items I'd hate for
> people to 
> assume that just because they were aware of a food item in some form
> 
> that hershey bars and pizza with red sauce are viably historically
> accurate. 
> In joyous service, 
> Raffaella 
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Beth Harrison 
> To: TerraPomaria at yahoogroups.com [2]; Summits 
> Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 11:33:42 AM
> Subject: [Summits] Fw: Officially Period...the tomato
> Sure, but you could add they were cooked with vinegar, which I
> forgot to
> write here.  There is a good article out on
> http://www.florilegium.org on
> period use of tomatoes.  The Italian translator says 'fried' but the
> German below says "cooked".  I'm not so sure I want to be behind a
> 'lasagne is okay' wave of potluck dishes though.  And there is still
> the
> warning that it is unhealthy.
>> Can I forward this message onto some email lists?  I think I know
> a few
>> folks who would love to see this.
>> 
>> Whoot - In the 1590 version of the Krauterbuch is the same spiel
> about
>> tomatoes - cooked with oil and pepper (and vinegar) in Italy.  And
> the 
>> internets >advise  this info comes from even earlier in the
> century.  I am now 
>> craving
>> Italian food again :)  Meanwhile I'm geeking out on what kind of
> mushrooms
>> were used in the 16th century. 
>> 
>> See it yourself here:
>> 
> http://imgbase-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=772
>> and
>> 
> http://imgbase-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=773
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